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	<title>Comments on: Demagogues to the left of me, demagogues to the right</title>
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		<title>By: fritz8945</title>
		<link>http://www.threedonia.com/archives/11226/comment-page-1#comment-42188</link>
		<dc:creator>fritz8945</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Aug 2009 02:10:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;And who’s to blame?  Barack Obama. Granted, I don’t want him passing health care reform, or reforms of any kind. I don’t like his ideas. But his lack of leadership is driving a wedge through this country. The great uniter clearly sees this as us vs. them, it’s apparent in every statement he utters from his teleprompter.&quot;

Right on John. He needs to show some kind of leadership and quickly. The kids in Congress have mom &amp; dad&#039;s credit cards and are busy buying booze and hookers with it. The country is going down the toilet while he&#039;s taking the wife to NY for date nights and having &quot;non-racist&quot; beer parties, and galavanting around the world wastfully blowing our hard earned money on apology tours, wasting 100s of thousands of our hardearned dollars on jetfuel. And is it only in my mind, or is he and the rest of the left the only ones to have brought up the subject of race in this whole mess?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;And who’s to blame?  Barack Obama. Granted, I don’t want him passing health care reform, or reforms of any kind. I don’t like his ideas. But his lack of leadership is driving a wedge through this country. The great uniter clearly sees this as us vs. them, it’s apparent in every statement he utters from his teleprompter.&#8221;</p>
<p>Right on John. He needs to show some kind of leadership and quickly. The kids in Congress have mom &amp; dad&#8217;s credit cards and are busy buying booze and hookers with it. The country is going down the toilet while he&#8217;s taking the wife to NY for date nights and having &#8220;non-racist&#8221; beer parties, and galavanting around the world wastfully blowing our hard earned money on apology tours, wasting 100s of thousands of our hardearned dollars on jetfuel. And is it only in my mind, or is he and the rest of the left the only ones to have brought up the subject of race in this whole mess?</p>
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		<title>By: Floyd</title>
		<link>http://www.threedonia.com/archives/11226/comment-page-1#comment-42036</link>
		<dc:creator>Floyd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Aug 2009 15:13:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Perhaps we should hold a funeral for this &quot;N&quot; word.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perhaps we should hold a funeral for this &#8220;N&#8221; word.</p>
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		<title>By: Rufus</title>
		<link>http://www.threedonia.com/archives/11226/comment-page-1#comment-42033</link>
		<dc:creator>Rufus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Aug 2009 15:04:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Amen, Tracy!</description>
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		<title>By: Rufus</title>
		<link>http://www.threedonia.com/archives/11226/comment-page-1#comment-42031</link>
		<dc:creator>Rufus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Aug 2009 14:59:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Andrew,

I&#039;ve written about this before.  It has to do with our past.  When we lived in small tribes it was a great trait to be able to notice threats, and fixate on them.  Now that the world is our environment through our television sets we think everything we see is a threat to us, no matter how remote.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Andrew,</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve written about this before.  It has to do with our past.  When we lived in small tribes it was a great trait to be able to notice threats, and fixate on them.  Now that the world is our environment through our television sets we think everything we see is a threat to us, no matter how remote.</p>
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		<title>By: Rufus</title>
		<link>http://www.threedonia.com/archives/11226/comment-page-1#comment-42026</link>
		<dc:creator>Rufus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Aug 2009 14:48:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just as long as you keep coming back to threedonia.com, Andrew...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just as long as you keep coming back to threedonia.com, Andrew&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Rufus</title>
		<link>http://www.threedonia.com/archives/11226/comment-page-1#comment-42020</link>
		<dc:creator>Rufus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Aug 2009 14:18:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is one of the best posts I&#039;ve read on this blog in a long time.  Great job, JohnFN!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is one of the best posts I&#8217;ve read on this blog in a long time.  Great job, JohnFN!</p>
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		<title>By: Tracy, txmom2many</title>
		<link>http://www.threedonia.com/archives/11226/comment-page-1#comment-41937</link>
		<dc:creator>Tracy, txmom2many</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Aug 2009 16:04:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I understand that, I still don&#039;t think calling anyone Nazi will help.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I understand that, I still don&#8217;t think calling anyone Nazi will help.</p>
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		<title>By: Stephanie</title>
		<link>http://www.threedonia.com/archives/11226/comment-page-1#comment-41935</link>
		<dc:creator>Stephanie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Aug 2009 15:56:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tracy the Nazi&#039;s didn&#039;t round up Jews until they had full control and were in power for a few years. The first concentration camps, Dachau and Sachsenhausen were used for political opponents like communists, and other political voices who opposed them. They weren&#039;t death camps. Auschwitz, Sobibor etc. didn&#039;t come on the scene until after the Germans stormed Poland. And then gassings and crematoria didn&#039;t really come into vogue until after the Wansee Conference in January 1942. Until then in Russia the SS was following the German army and committing mass shootings of Jews. Babi Yar was one of the most notorious Nazi crimes ever. And no truely mass executions happened until the eastern invasions. The Nazis had been busy executing their own like Ernst Rohm and his brownshirt leadership. Hitler was smart enough to know that he needed the military on his side which is the reason behind Rohm&#039;s demise. But also during the night of the long knives many other political opponents were killed.....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tracy the Nazi&#8217;s didn&#8217;t round up Jews until they had full control and were in power for a few years. The first concentration camps, Dachau and Sachsenhausen were used for political opponents like communists, and other political voices who opposed them. They weren&#8217;t death camps. Auschwitz, Sobibor etc. didn&#8217;t come on the scene until after the Germans stormed Poland. And then gassings and crematoria didn&#8217;t really come into vogue until after the Wansee Conference in January 1942. Until then in Russia the SS was following the German army and committing mass shootings of Jews. Babi Yar was one of the most notorious Nazi crimes ever. And no truely mass executions happened until the eastern invasions. The Nazis had been busy executing their own like Ernst Rohm and his brownshirt leadership. Hitler was smart enough to know that he needed the military on his side which is the reason behind Rohm&#8217;s demise. But also during the night of the long knives many other political opponents were killed&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: Republibot 3.0</title>
		<link>http://www.threedonia.com/archives/11226/comment-page-1#comment-41934</link>
		<dc:creator>Republibot 3.0</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Aug 2009 15:53:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think in a larger sense, this is tied to the problem of punditry in general. At some point, it becomes a &#039;me too&#039; thing, where doofuses from &quot;Watchdog groups&quot; are trying to make a name for themselves by decrying everything up to and including the new GI Joe movie for &quot;Not being American enough.&quot; No matter how they spin this, it always reminds me of the Canadian Brodcast Rules stating that SCTV - a show made in canada by canadians for export - was somehow not &#039;canadian enough.&#039; One of the GI-Joe bashing pundits was completely unaware of the 80s Joe revival, and was upset that the movie wasn&#039;t based on the 12-inch dolls he remembered from the vietnam war. 

It&#039;s stupid. It&#039;s obvious the motivation for this kind of thing isn&#039;t to address real ills, or try to change things, it&#039;s just to stir up a bit of pointless moral outrage so an individual pundit can make a name for himself as the up-and-coming defender of decency and niceness. It accomplishes nothing - who gives a damn if Tinky Winky is gay, after all? - and it just makes us conservatives look like big idiots who go around tilting at windmills for no reason time after time after time. 

And ultimately it&#039;s seeming increasingly self-serving and disingenuous to me, since, in the end, it&#039;s just people wanting to make names for themselves at the expence of the movement and people who are easily provoked to anger. 

As a movement, we need to be better than this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think in a larger sense, this is tied to the problem of punditry in general. At some point, it becomes a &#8216;me too&#8217; thing, where doofuses from &#8220;Watchdog groups&#8221; are trying to make a name for themselves by decrying everything up to and including the new GI Joe movie for &#8220;Not being American enough.&#8221; No matter how they spin this, it always reminds me of the Canadian Brodcast Rules stating that SCTV &#8211; a show made in canada by canadians for export &#8211; was somehow not &#8216;canadian enough.&#8217; One of the GI-Joe bashing pundits was completely unaware of the 80s Joe revival, and was upset that the movie wasn&#8217;t based on the 12-inch dolls he remembered from the vietnam war. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s stupid. It&#8217;s obvious the motivation for this kind of thing isn&#8217;t to address real ills, or try to change things, it&#8217;s just to stir up a bit of pointless moral outrage so an individual pundit can make a name for himself as the up-and-coming defender of decency and niceness. It accomplishes nothing &#8211; who gives a damn if Tinky Winky is gay, after all? &#8211; and it just makes us conservatives look like big idiots who go around tilting at windmills for no reason time after time after time. </p>
<p>And ultimately it&#8217;s seeming increasingly self-serving and disingenuous to me, since, in the end, it&#8217;s just people wanting to make names for themselves at the expence of the movement and people who are easily provoked to anger. </p>
<p>As a movement, we need to be better than this.</p>
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		<title>By: Mr Sideous</title>
		<link>http://www.threedonia.com/archives/11226/comment-page-1#comment-41933</link>
		<dc:creator>Mr Sideous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Aug 2009 15:52:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Savage used to be on a station out here (KRLA Glendale - home of Prager and Medved) but he lasted a year, replaced by (the much better) Dennis Miller.
   He got old really fast. And he&#039;s crazy. He was talking one time about his clock collection, and I kept waiting for the sound of the nurse with his evening meds. I think I wasn&#039;t the only one because he was off the air shortly thereafter.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Savage used to be on a station out here (KRLA Glendale &#8211; home of Prager and Medved) but he lasted a year, replaced by (the much better) Dennis Miller.<br />
   He got old really fast. And he&#8217;s crazy. He was talking one time about his clock collection, and I kept waiting for the sound of the nurse with his evening meds. I think I wasn&#8217;t the only one because he was off the air shortly thereafter.</p>
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