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		<title>By: David Marcoe</title>
		<link>http://www.threedonia.com/archives/11594/comment-page-1#comment-43668</link>
		<dc:creator>David Marcoe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Aug 2009 20:40:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mr. Sideous, I would also like to hear this one. Also, what do you do now and why did you leave it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr. Sideous, I would also like to hear this one. Also, what do you do now and why did you leave it?</p>
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		<title>By: Republibot 3.0</title>
		<link>http://www.threedonia.com/archives/11594/comment-page-1#comment-43665</link>
		<dc:creator>Republibot 3.0</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Aug 2009 20:36:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mr. Sideous:

I apologize. Most people don&#039;t. 

So what didja&#039; do? Do tell! Do tell!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr. Sideous:</p>
<p>I apologize. Most people don&#8217;t. </p>
<p>So what didja&#8217; do? Do tell! Do tell!</p>
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		<title>By: Mr Sideous</title>
		<link>http://www.threedonia.com/archives/11594/comment-page-1#comment-43628</link>
		<dc:creator>Mr Sideous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Aug 2009 18:28:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>R3:
   I worked in animation for 16 years. I know the process.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>R3:<br />
   I worked in animation for 16 years. I know the process.</p>
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		<title>By: Republibot 3.0</title>
		<link>http://www.threedonia.com/archives/11594/comment-page-1#comment-43623</link>
		<dc:creator>Republibot 3.0</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Aug 2009 18:17:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, they got it at a bargain, too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, they got it at a bargain, too.</p>
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		<title>By: Mighty Skip</title>
		<link>http://www.threedonia.com/archives/11594/comment-page-1#comment-43577</link>
		<dc:creator>Mighty Skip</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Aug 2009 14:47:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well Fox did pick up The Critic (one of my favorite shows of all time) after ABC dumped it, although it didn&#039;t last too much longer. So there is always a chance this will end up somewhere else. I figured the Goode Family wouldn&#039;t last.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well Fox did pick up The Critic (one of my favorite shows of all time) after ABC dumped it, although it didn&#8217;t last too much longer. So there is always a chance this will end up somewhere else. I figured the Goode Family wouldn&#8217;t last.</p>
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		<title>By: Republibot 3.0</title>
		<link>http://www.threedonia.com/archives/11594/comment-page-1#comment-43571</link>
		<dc:creator>Republibot 3.0</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Aug 2009 13:17:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mr. Sideous, here&#039;s how it works in TV:

A show starts out, it&#039;s got a cast, it&#039;s got a crew, it&#039;s got writers and producers. If the show survives to another season, the contract gives everyone a built-in pay raise for year two - cast, crew, writers, everyone. Of course some people will be fired, or quit, or whatever, so their replacements are brought in at the same level as people were paid back in year one. That&#039;s fair, right? The people who&#039;ve been there longer get paid more, right? Seniority. If the show comes back for a third year, of course there&#039;s more built in pay raises for the long-timers and the new people who came in for year two. New people coming in for year three start at the bottom.

In some contracts, people also have a built-in promotions, sometimes in lieu of pay raises, or sometimes in conjunction with them. This isn&#039;t considered a problem, since there&#039;s always something for people to do - making a TV show is difficult - and most shows don&#039;t run all that long, however if a show runs twenty or thirty years like the Simpsons, obviously you&#039;re going to end up as top-heavy on the brass as the US Navy is. (The last I checked, four captains to every command slot)

The Simpsons are a massively labor-intensive production, however. I&#039;ve got no idea how many people are on staff at any given time, but probably a couple hundred, and if you count the artists in Korea, probably several thousand. And it takes about 8 months to make an episode, as opposed to six-days-and-it&#039;s-done, like Friends or Cheers or whatever. I&#039;m sure everyone&#039;s pretty darn busy.

However a similar situation where I think your observation is definitely right would be Saturday Night Live, with something like eleven hundred producers, many of who never even leave the bathroom, several of whom are too coked up to even properly make use of their wide assortment of Canadian hookers. Certainly NBC could get rid of a few hundred of them (The producers, not the hookers. Certainly not the hookers!), and use that extra money to maybe, I dunno, slip some jokes in to the show now and again. Or at least pay off the National Debt of Bolivia. You know, whatever...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr. Sideous, here&#8217;s how it works in TV:</p>
<p>A show starts out, it&#8217;s got a cast, it&#8217;s got a crew, it&#8217;s got writers and producers. If the show survives to another season, the contract gives everyone a built-in pay raise for year two &#8211; cast, crew, writers, everyone. Of course some people will be fired, or quit, or whatever, so their replacements are brought in at the same level as people were paid back in year one. That&#8217;s fair, right? The people who&#8217;ve been there longer get paid more, right? Seniority. If the show comes back for a third year, of course there&#8217;s more built in pay raises for the long-timers and the new people who came in for year two. New people coming in for year three start at the bottom.</p>
<p>In some contracts, people also have a built-in promotions, sometimes in lieu of pay raises, or sometimes in conjunction with them. This isn&#8217;t considered a problem, since there&#8217;s always something for people to do &#8211; making a TV show is difficult &#8211; and most shows don&#8217;t run all that long, however if a show runs twenty or thirty years like the Simpsons, obviously you&#8217;re going to end up as top-heavy on the brass as the US Navy is. (The last I checked, four captains to every command slot)</p>
<p>The Simpsons are a massively labor-intensive production, however. I&#8217;ve got no idea how many people are on staff at any given time, but probably a couple hundred, and if you count the artists in Korea, probably several thousand. And it takes about 8 months to make an episode, as opposed to six-days-and-it&#8217;s-done, like Friends or Cheers or whatever. I&#8217;m sure everyone&#8217;s pretty darn busy.</p>
<p>However a similar situation where I think your observation is definitely right would be Saturday Night Live, with something like eleven hundred producers, many of who never even leave the bathroom, several of whom are too coked up to even properly make use of their wide assortment of Canadian hookers. Certainly NBC could get rid of a few hundred of them (The producers, not the hookers. Certainly not the hookers!), and use that extra money to maybe, I dunno, slip some jokes in to the show now and again. Or at least pay off the National Debt of Bolivia. You know, whatever&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Mr Sideous</title>
		<link>http://www.threedonia.com/archives/11594/comment-page-1#comment-43527</link>
		<dc:creator>Mr Sideous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Aug 2009 23:40:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Of course Groening could save a few million by getting rid some of those 20 &quot;producers&quot; who milk fat salaries.

Oh no, it&#039;s those dirty artists fault.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of course Groening could save a few million by getting rid some of those 20 &#8220;producers&#8221; who milk fat salaries.</p>
<p>Oh no, it&#8217;s those dirty artists fault.</p>
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		<title>By: Christian Toto</title>
		<link>http://www.threedonia.com/archives/11594/comment-page-1#comment-43522</link>
		<dc:creator>Christian Toto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Aug 2009 23:03:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s easy to read &#039;conspiracy&#039; here, but the networks are famous for burying quality shows and giving up on programs before they really hit their stride.

Clearly, there was precious little promotion behind the show ... but animation isn&#039;t cheap so it&#039;s unlikely someone will ride to the rescue.

That sad thing is the show is the perfect accessory for the Age of Obama - what the media used to call 2009 before before the president started stumbling, bumbling and lying about health care.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s easy to read &#8216;conspiracy&#8217; here, but the networks are famous for burying quality shows and giving up on programs before they really hit their stride.</p>
<p>Clearly, there was precious little promotion behind the show &#8230; but animation isn&#8217;t cheap so it&#8217;s unlikely someone will ride to the rescue.</p>
<p>That sad thing is the show is the perfect accessory for the Age of Obama &#8211; what the media used to call 2009 before before the president started stumbling, bumbling and lying about health care.</p>
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		<title>By: fritz8945</title>
		<link>http://www.threedonia.com/archives/11594/comment-page-1#comment-43520</link>
		<dc:creator>fritz8945</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Aug 2009 22:47:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How about a cartoon soap opera called the &quot;Citizens of Threedonia?&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How about a cartoon soap opera called the &#8220;Citizens of Threedonia?&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Floyd</title>
		<link>http://www.threedonia.com/archives/11594/comment-page-1#comment-43517</link>
		<dc:creator>Floyd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Aug 2009 22:35:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I didn&#039;t mean to imply that the Simpsons season 1 wasn&#039;t a hit -- just that it sucked eggs the first season.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I didn&#8217;t mean to imply that the Simpsons season 1 wasn&#8217;t a hit &#8212; just that it sucked eggs the first season.</p>
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