Monday Open Thread


Truth indeed came once into the world with her divine Master, and was a perfect shape most glorious to look on: but when he ascended, and his Apostles after him were laid asleep, then straight arose a wicked race of deceivers, who, as that story goes of the Egyptian Typhon with his conspirators, how they dealt with the good Osiris, took the virgin Truth, hewed her lovely form into a thousand pieces, and scattered them to the four winds. From that time ever since, the sad friends of Truth, such as durst appear, imitating the careful search that Isis made for the mangled body of Osiris, went up and down gathering up limb by limb, still as they could find them. We have not yet found them all, Lords and Commons, nor ever shall do, till her Master’s second coming;


29 comments to Monday Open Thread

  • David Marcoe

    A good dose of Christian humility from John Milton.

  • David Marcoe

    So, Rasmussen shows a “consistent rise” to 51%, “highest level of support yet,” for ObamaCare, after the speech. Now, I haven’t seen another poll that indicates anything along those lines (only slight upticks in support and certainly no majority for it) and Rasmussen does use rolling averages, so we could be seeing the high end of a bounce after the speech.

    • Every poll I’ve seen so far since the speech shows slight (within the margin of error) support for Obamacare.

      What I can’t figure out is that, without exception, there’s a larger majority that also believe:

      1. Obamacare will cause costs to rise
      2. Obamacare will decrease the quality of health care.

      And yet they favor this?

      On the other hand, the polls all sample Democrats over Republicans by wide margins. Could there be a significant percentage of Democrats who know what the results of Obamacare will be and just don’t care?

      • David Marcoe

        Could there be a significant percentage of Democrats who know what the results of Obamacare will be and just don’t care?

        They’re called socialists…

        • I often hear them referred to as college graduates.

          • David Marcoe

            Only till they have kids. Then it tends to wear off. It’s the ones who don’t have kids that stay stuck on stupid.

            • I don’t know, I live next door to a couple of college graduates with two kids, and they are the epitome of knee-jerk Democrats. In fact, I’m looking at my rear window at one of their cars, and in its window is an SEIU sign from a Pro-Obamacare rally a few weeks ago that reads, “health care reform CAN’T WAIT.”

              And given that not everyone in Seattle is a childless couple, I gotta think that some are so indoctrinated that even having a couple of juniors can’t break through brainwashing.

              Although there was one house that I walk the dog by each morning, with a Subaru parked in front. The car’s rear was plastered with left-wing bumper stickers. Not long ago the car was scrubbed clean. Not a sticker in sight. Hope does spring eternal.

              • David Marcoe

                You’re looking for a representative sample in Seattle? That’s like looking for a straight guy in San Fransisco.

                Still, kids do have an amazing effect of making a person wake and grow up, even if they don’t go all the way to the right. My aunt is a dyed-in-wool liberal and it took her becoming a grandparent to soften her edges. Look at every aged rocker whose had kids. It’s amazing how conservative they can sound. Too bad it doesn’t always translate to their politics.

  • Stephanie

    I don’t see it David. Maybe its me but 51 percent? Not one other poll shows that. And tehre are some very cute little grey birds out in my garden…gonna find out what they are.

    • David Marcoe

      I’m inclined to agree. A 5-point jump from one speech, when everything previously has had no such effect seems iffy. The numbers don’t seem reconcilable to the circumstances. It could be reasonably explainable as an outlier.

  • JimmyC

    Great new article from Cracked: 5 Facts About Woodstock The Hippies Don’t Want You To Know.

    And it’s written by a woman, which is just hot.

  • Veruckt

    I must admit to being saddened by the death of that Yale student Annie Le. I guess I’ve sort of related to it a bit more since she bears some resemblance to my better half and I keep thinking how I would feel if something were to happen to her, especially right before our wedding day. Aside from being, by all accounts an incredibly kind person, she was apparently also a very promising young scientist. There is no telling what sort of potential might have been snuffed from the world. Sadder still is that murders are so commonplace that most of us give it no more than a passing thought.

    For the record my money is on a student who was obsessed with her and couldn’t stand that she was marrying someone else. Though it wouldn’t surprise me if a professor did it.

  • Stephanie

    I know a few proffs who would be goofy enough to try something like that Veruckt.

  • David Marcoe

    Kit, think about the modern college campus. Is that really such a surprise?

  • Rufus

    At the University where I did my Undergraduate work some of the main buildings on campus remained unlocked so students could use the classrooms to study. When I had a big test I would often sequester myself in one of those rooms; I liked having access to a blackboard and they were far enough from my dorm that I was able to stay motivated to stick with my studies and finish without distractions.

    I once learned that a young woman was raped in one of the classrooms in a building I was in on a night when I was also studying in that building. It haunted me that I had not known, and was unable to help her. The room where she was raped wasn’t too far from the room I had been using. Even before that incident, if I saw a young woman walking alone at night I would stay about 40 feet behind them, and in a loud voice announce that they should not be walking alone, at night, and I was going to remain the same distance away, but follow along to make sure no one bothered them.

    One of the things that would bother me most was when a group of young woman would leave a friend alone at a party. There is safety in numbers. College co-eds should stick together at night, or make sure they have some male friends to escort them. If I saw a female student leaving a party alone I would try to catch them before they went outside and tell them I would like to walk them home. If they were skeptical I’d find some others at the party who knew me, and could vouch for my character. There were a few occassions where I protected those women from men who tried to make a woman go somewhere against her will. I had one guy telling me he was a woman’s boyfriend, from back home, and she had broken up with him. He was trying to get her to go in his car. I asked the woman and she said she did not want to go with him. I did believe his story, but I told him I was going to get her to her dorm room and if he wanted to see her he could meet her there. He started getting physical with me, which was not smart. After he was on the ground and understood that wasn’t going to work either I apologized for knocking him down, but told him he was being a d*ck and he could see her later, back at her dorm if she chose to invite him in.

    The real shame is most all (all?) Colleges and Universities have campus security who are more than happy to escort women anywhere on campus. There are usually phone boxes to call them, and a main number you can call on your cell phone. Young woman should never be shy to take advantage of that service. I know guys who do security and they are happy to escort anyone who needs help. It is not an inconvenience.

  • In case you didn’t catch what was happening up at the Toronto International Film Festival.

    It just so happens that this year’s City-to-City exchange at the festival was with Tel Aviv. So who do the likes of Noam Chomsky, Harry Belafonte, Jane Fonda and the rest of the Usual Suspects reply? With demands of censorship, naturally.

    Israel is a pariah, and Hugo Chavez is warmly embraced.

    Tells you all you need to know about today’s Hollywood.

  • Stephanie

    OK this just in…Obama is pulling all the stops. He is announcing that he actually has more support for his health care agenda than we think. He says its his silent majority. Oh really? This is how they down play our outrage. They come up with this crap that A: Makes no sense and B: Is laughable. Now I know why this oracle of idiocy is saying this garp…he has Democrat moderates still saying um…my constituents will kill me dead if I vote for this piece of BLEEP. He is trying to convince people the truths they know are not really truths. Eitehr that or he actually believes the GOP is doing this, which, the party is not. THats what I find hilarious………dang its awesome to see him panic.

  • Stephanie

    Blue Collar Comedy is on the Comedy Central. OMG! Half of Ron Whites turn I forgot I get home in time to see him explain Grizzly Man. I haven’t laughed so hard in a long long long time.

    • Tracy, txmom2many

      That Ron White bit makes me laugh so hard I’m sore after.

      “I wasn’t drunk in public. I was drunk in a bar, they threw me out in public”

      “Why don’t they just go ahead and say, Diamonds, that’ll shut her up”

      Is that the same one? or is that another comedy tour?

  • US Condemned for Preemptive Use of Hillary Clinton
    There’s some damn funny stuff in there…

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