More smoke blowin’.
I am so glad that those White House mice have such a good grasp of who the enemy really is:
“What I think is fair to say about Fox — and certainly it’s the way we view it — is that it really is more a wing of the Republican Party,” said Anita Dunn, White House communications director, on CNN. “They take their talking points, put them on the air; take their opposition research, put them on the air. And that’s fine. But let’s not pretend they’re a news network the way CNN is.”
Oh, that’s right — feckin’ O’Reilly! when’s the last time he fact-checked a joke?
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I just heard while driving to the BMW shop to help bro in law get his car Cavuto DISMANTLE these nihilistic incompetant jackasses. Do they honestly think they are doing themselves a favor? WHA??? You know I seem to remember Nixon doing this to the WaPo…and look at what happened to him.
This whole administration is a hair away from (in my best Colonel Clink accent)”papers please”.
Shouldn’t Fox News’ competition be a little ticked about this line of attack on one of their own?
To their credit, while not essentially poo-pooing it, David Gergen and Wolf Blitzer all but called the Fox criticism stupid. It’s more of the Rules for Radicals strategy, which Congress and the Administration have to learn doesn’t work once you leave your signs and bongo drums on the sidewalk and have to start governing.
JohnFN,
Two big problems with the rules for radicals strategy vis a vis the administration:
1. They are, by definition, the establishment. No matter how much water MSNBC and MTV carry for them, even young, non-political college students will start to notice that Obama and his acolytes are the “guys in the suits.” President Obama’s party has the Executive branch, the Legislative branch and a firm foot in the Judicial branch. They cannot, by definition, be radicals because they are, by definition, the establishment.
2. Rules for radicals techniques really can’t work once the majority is on to the game. We’re on to the game.
This brings to mind my favorite line from Patton, at the end of the first battle he fights the Germans in and wins,….
“Rommell you magnificent bastard! I read your book!”
Beat em at their own game. FOX is embracing the criticism and taking them on. This does Obama no good. Like I said look what it did to Nixon….;)
Nah..you guys are all taking them for being more competent than they are. We are seeing the Dems show themselves for what they are, Nixonian political hacks. We all know what happened to him. I think people tend to get carried away with Obama and appearences. But remember, its all to borrow a phrase from Das Boot, smoke and wind. If the dollar goes south he is toast. I guarentee it Dems will be leaping from the boat to save their skins and he will be left to twist. If anything they are amatures and politically incompetant.
as Stalin said…it isn’t who gets to vote…it’s all about who gets to count the vote. It won’t matter what happens to the dollar (did it matter that the Ruble became worthless?); it won’t matter that single family homes will become untenable with Cap and Trade taxes; it won;t matter that people are forced to move into city cores and into cheap apartments…it all, always, comes down to who gets to count the vote…and America is not immune from that, just think about Southern voting patterns in the first part of the 20th century, were Black votes counted? Not hardly….and oh, just what party represented the South at that time?
Count me as a pessimist that the Dems will pay for wrecking the country.
They’re giving us what we voted for.
Um Kit I don’t believe any of the regulars voted for Obama here sooo….and my advice to you my friend is this: Pessimism is a chronic ailment to some of us on the right. A good dose of cynicism is fine however pessisism kills the spirit, guts motivation and ruins enthusiasm. Its not based in reality its based strictly on a Eyore type mindset. Frankly it has hurt more opportunities than helped.
I mean Kevin…didn’t mean to leap down your throat Kit…;)
Eh, I’ve been called everything from Kent to Curt.
I would assume that no one here voted for the Obamassiah. So what? Unless you are motivated by an utter pessimism and an expectation that the people voted for exactly what they wanted, you are more likely to wait for the moonbeams to shine down and hope that all will come right in the final reel. You’re going to have to move actively to prevent the worst from being the vote counters. Just saying…look being a pessimist loses nothing, but being an optimist at the wrong time can be costly…compare and contrast Churchill and Chamberlain.
and by the way…pessimism informed the thoughts of Hume, Smith, Johnson, Gibbon, Twain, Santayana, Eliot (to an extent), Lewis, Kirk. Pessimism is not a chronic ailment; it should be a staple of each and every day and every consideration. If it isn’t then you aren’t a conservative. But, approaching each and every event with a pessimistic view does not mean that you cannot see the beauty and hope in the world. Instead, when the beauty happens it comes as a transforming event. It brings a smile; it brings a wondrous love of the world as it is, and as it should be seen and appreciated.
Damn well said,Kevin
Hmmm not impressed with that list why? Reagan wasn’t a pessimist, neither war Washington, or Adams. Somehow those names to Americans should take precedence over the dusty meaningless names above mentioned. Like I said and Scott this is for you to, pessimism is a disease, an eroding, degrading disease. It fosters doubt, kills motivation and energy. Cynicism is fine. I am a cynic. But don’t be a pessimist and expect me to follow you. Pessimists have no faith. Every one of them were faithless. What is life if not for having faith? Think about it. And CS Lewis was a pessimist? Gee, a confirmed Christian apologist, great philosopher. I find it difficult to think a man who had faith in the Resurection of our Lord and Savior would be a pessimist.
Just saying…look being a pessimist loses nothing…
Because he has nothing to loose…
Do you know where the word cynic comes from? Cynics would a school of Greek philosophy who were radical skeptics. One of their ilk, Diogenes, became so doubtful–embracing nihilism and animalism–he ended up living naked in a tub.
A pessimist or cynic risks nothing because he has nothing to believe in. He sits in smug confidence, safely ensconced in the superiority of his vision and intellect, hurling down invective on those who would deign to rise from apathy. The only reassurance he has is his poverty. Nothing is precious too him, so nothing can be stolen from him. But he does not live. He does not thrive. He knows nothing of meaning or purpose. Such creatures are worthy of pity and contempt.
…Hume…
brilliant man, but he has to be taken with a whole bag of salt.
…Smith…
The guy who wrote A Theory of Moral Sentiments? No.
…Twain…
Manic depressive, I believe, and at times, quite a bitter person. He’s a great novelist and social critic, but again, I take his words in balance with others.
…Santayana, Eliot, Lewis, Kirk…
I’m thinking they you’re not understanding what a pessimist is. These men were realists. That is, they acknowledged in the bad in the world, but also acknowledged the good and fought for it.
Three of these men were Christians. Lewis said that Chesterton’s The Everlasting Man–a book by which you can “laugh yourself sane”–was one of the ten most influential books of his life and set him on the course to a belief in Christ. I doubt you could call him a pessimist.
Me? I’m a realist. Bad things happen. Good things happen. Big things happen. Small things happen. Most things are beyond my control. Those things I can influence I will attempt to for the better. In all things I will hope for the best, but will always have preparations for the worst.
AMEN!
David I know you’re trying to prove me wrong but until you walk in the shoes of either living or dying you don’t know what I am talking about. Neither would those learned men you and Kevin danced out there. I get beaten over the head with a newspaper everyday for telling gloomy, unhappy unrealistic pessimists that they are wrong. There is a fine line between cynicism and pessimism: A cynic can afford to be choosy what he or she is cynical about. I am a cynic towards politicians. I am not a cynical about my country or my countrymen. I am not cynical about my faith. I am cynical about other countries, even our allies. That’s being realistic.
Steph, it had nothing to do with you. If anything, I was expanding on what you were saying. In common parlance, cynicism and pessimism might be interchangeable. What you were calling a cynic I was not calling a cynic.
correction: were a school
David up to more super villain antics again I see.
I think there is a fine line between cynicism and pessimism. Being a cynic I believe is healthy since we should always question authority rather than simply marching to it’s orders. However I think Stephanie is right on pessimism in that it can become sort of an all consuming illness where a person becomes incapable of seeing or accepting a positive event. Churchill was a cynic, the goth kids that hang around in front of the mall talking about death and embracing nothingness are pessimist.
“the goth kids that hang around in front of the mall talking about death and embracing nothingness are pessimist.”
You just don’t understand what IT’S LIKE!
Obama is a pessimist I’d bet. So is John McCain. I guarentee that George Soros and Lenin were pessimists. Reagan was a cynical optimist. A cynic accepts everything about life, good and bad.
The white house has to know that by writing off Fox news they’re also ditching all of its viewers. Has the president not yet grasped that he serves all U.S. citizens, not just those who voted for them?
Liz,
Obama thinks he is the annoited ruler of the whole “global community”.
You think Obama is a pessimist? Sorry, I think the opposite. All the totalitarians are examples of supreme optimists because they believe in the perfectibility of Man. Just give them enough rein and they will show you, no matter how high the bodies get piled. Believing in the beauty of this country and all that it has meant and can continue to mean does not mean that you cannot be a pessimist. We have reached a tipping point: 50% of the people will pay no taxes soon. That means they will be able to vote to take money from others to give to themselves. We have never before been in that condition. I am a pessimist as to what I think will happen. I would love to believe that the majority will wake up and reject that future. I just don’t think it will. We are not the same country that fought the civil War, nor WW2…we are very different.
If you want to believe what I think is happy talk, go ahead. But allow me to think the opposite without branding me as not believing in the American dream.
Yeah Kevin. You seem like a pretty well read guy. Ever read Marx? Or any of the books written by early 20th Century Progressives? THey are dour, colorless, pessimists.
David I’m thinking that you don’t understand a pessimist. To be a pessimist does not preclude action. It can mean that you know you’re doomed to the futile gesture. I’m sure there were more that a few pessimists at the Alamo and at Bastogne that still soldiered on. In my experience it has been the so called realists who more easily give up and will not continue the fight, because to do so is not “realistic”.
In my experience it has been the so called realists who more easily give up and will not continue the fight, because to do so is not “realistic”.
Those are just cowards. I fight for the rightness of the cause, not the odds of winning.
I’ve read Marx (boring, and can be summarized as a call to return to feudalism, which of course is what the modern socialistic state is…but I digress)…and no he is not a pessimist. He is an optimist where his thoughts and philosophy are concerned, because he knows in the end that they will bring heaven on earth. With living breathing humans, real people, he is utterly and completely contemptuous, that is not pessimism.
oh, and the early 20th century progressives? Same as Marx…they are completely taken with their visions of the beautiful future in parallel with their complete contempt for the great unwashed. so, sorry, no, they are not pessimists in any way.
Pessimists march forward into the future with the knowledge of the past at their back…but still they march forward, usually against the odds.
Like most democrats, any opposing viewpoint is an enemy.
however, Stephanie, I will wholeheartedly agree with you that the progressives and Marx and their ilk are indeed dour, colorless, heartless, and at bottom haters of the human condition (also, lousy writers to boot).
but again…that doesn’t make them pessimists (am I flogging this by now, and is the horse dead?)