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	<title>Comments on: This Just In: USA Today Prints Decent Article!</title>
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	<description>These are our principles.  If you don&#039;t like them, we have others...</description>
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		<title>By: Rufus</title>
		<link>http://www.threedonia.com/archives/145/comment-page-1#comment-295</link>
		<dc:creator>Rufus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2008 11:49:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Of course not &quot;all.&quot;  Some of the city folks I grew up with hunted, or shot guns for target practice and sport.  But by far the most exposure I had to guns was almost daily news reports of people being killed in hand gun crimes.  There was never any news of guns being used to protect against criminals.  If a police officer saved innocents with his gun it would be a one day news story.  If he killed an innocent with his gun that was good for weeks and months of news.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of course not &#8220;all.&#8221;  Some of the city folks I grew up with hunted, or shot guns for target practice and sport.  But by far the most exposure I had to guns was almost daily news reports of people being killed in hand gun crimes.  There was never any news of guns being used to protect against criminals.  If a police officer saved innocents with his gun it would be a one day news story.  If he killed an innocent with his gun that was good for weeks and months of news.</p>
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		<title>By: opus</title>
		<link>http://www.threedonia.com/archives/145/comment-page-1#comment-293</link>
		<dc:creator>opus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2008 05:24:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We&#039;re obviously all shaped by our personal experiences and surroundings, but the gun argument presented suggests that people&#039;s opinions on this subject are dictated solely on their surroundings and personal experiences.  I give people more credit than that. Not all city people hate guns and not all country people love them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We&#8217;re obviously all shaped by our personal experiences and surroundings, but the gun argument presented suggests that people&#8217;s opinions on this subject are dictated solely on their surroundings and personal experiences.  I give people more credit than that. Not all city people hate guns and not all country people love them.</p>
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		<title>By: Rufus</title>
		<link>http://www.threedonia.com/archives/145/comment-page-1#comment-274</link>
		<dc:creator>Rufus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Sep 2008 18:35:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>opus,

You are right, but I think you way underestimate the way personal experience shapes one.  I am very, very different than my parents and live a life very different from those in the neighborhood I was raised but that journey was extremely difficult for me.  I look back on it now, and it all seems so obvious that it&#039;s difficult for me to understand why I made it so hard to get here, but we forget what it&#039;s like to be raised in a monolithic environment.  Even when we are open minded, curious and well read it is very hard to reach practical conclusions about &quot;the other&quot; (rural/urban, black/white, WASP/foreign, Christian/Atheist/Muslim/Jewish...) without some experience living among and around that which we don&#039;t understand.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>opus,</p>
<p>You are right, but I think you way underestimate the way personal experience shapes one.  I am very, very different than my parents and live a life very different from those in the neighborhood I was raised but that journey was extremely difficult for me.  I look back on it now, and it all seems so obvious that it&#8217;s difficult for me to understand why I made it so hard to get here, but we forget what it&#8217;s like to be raised in a monolithic environment.  Even when we are open minded, curious and well read it is very hard to reach practical conclusions about &#8220;the other&#8221; (rural/urban, black/white, WASP/foreign, Christian/Atheist/Muslim/Jewish&#8230;) without some experience living among and around that which we don&#8217;t understand.</p>
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		<title>By: opus</title>
		<link>http://www.threedonia.com/archives/145/comment-page-1#comment-265</link>
		<dc:creator>opus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Sep 2008 15:16:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The culture war is a war that can never be won.  It&#039;s a never ending battle that has only become more pronounced since the late 60&#039;s.  Up until that time, most Americans shared similar values. 

The gun reasoning didn&#039;t wash for me, it proposes that people&#039;s views are only shaped by their personal experiences. That people are unable to view the bigger picture and factor that into their reasoning.

All anti-gun views are purely political in nature. Urban folks have been convinced guns are the problem,when it&#039;s really the conditions they allow to have grown and fester in their communities.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The culture war is a war that can never be won.  It&#8217;s a never ending battle that has only become more pronounced since the late 60&#8242;s.  Up until that time, most Americans shared similar values. </p>
<p>The gun reasoning didn&#8217;t wash for me, it proposes that people&#8217;s views are only shaped by their personal experiences. That people are unable to view the bigger picture and factor that into their reasoning.</p>
<p>All anti-gun views are purely political in nature. Urban folks have been convinced guns are the problem,when it&#8217;s really the conditions they allow to have grown and fester in their communities.</p>
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		<title>By: JohnFN</title>
		<link>http://www.threedonia.com/archives/145/comment-page-1#comment-218</link>
		<dc:creator>JohnFN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Sep 2008 15:29:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ever since the exit polls for the &#039;04 election came out, the Dems have trashed values voters. They would rather appeal to the abortion-having, pot-smoking set then to people that think that is wrong.

If the war goes better through 06, they aren&#039;t even in contention this time around.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ever since the exit polls for the &#8217;04 election came out, the Dems have trashed values voters. They would rather appeal to the abortion-having, pot-smoking set then to people that think that is wrong.</p>
<p>If the war goes better through 06, they aren&#8217;t even in contention this time around.</p>
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		<title>By: CFKane</title>
		<link>http://www.threedonia.com/archives/145/comment-page-1#comment-214</link>
		<dc:creator>CFKane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Sep 2008 14:27:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s an excellent piece, with good points on each side. The most important part is the end. memorize, Quote it to your friends and enemies alike:

&quot;...Embrace the politics of division at your peril. Lob the culture war grenades, and the independents and moderates—the majority of our populace—will run away from the percussion, not toward it...&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s an excellent piece, with good points on each side. The most important part is the end. memorize, Quote it to your friends and enemies alike:</p>
<p>&#8220;&#8230;Embrace the politics of division at your peril. Lob the culture war grenades, and the independents and moderates—the majority of our populace—will run away from the percussion, not toward it&#8230;&#8221;</p>
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