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	<title>Comments on: Michael Vick: Eco-Warrior</title>
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		<title>By: Kevin S</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kevin S</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 01:16:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>looking at the numbers (160 kilos ~ 360 pounds)...I have to ask...who feeds their dog about 1 pound of meat per day, even an Alsatian, plus half a pound of cereals? I don&#039;t eat that much.
when the result looks questionable, question the premises.
I also have to suspect that the making of the Alsatian involved a lot less resources.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>looking at the numbers (160 kilos ~ 360 pounds)&#8230;I have to ask&#8230;who feeds their dog about 1 pound of meat per day, even an Alsatian, plus half a pound of cereals? I don&#8217;t eat that much.<br />
when the result looks questionable, question the premises.<br />
I also have to suspect that the making of the Alsatian involved a lot less resources.</p>
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		<title>By: Floyd</title>
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		<dc:creator>Floyd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2009 19:25:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tracy... we actually have a Facebook friend (with my personal FB) in common (I discovered quite by accident).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tracy&#8230; we actually have a Facebook friend (with my personal FB) in common (I discovered quite by accident).</p>
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		<title>By: Tracy, txmom2many</title>
		<link>http://www.threedonia.com/archives/14909/comment-page-1#comment-53092</link>
		<dc:creator>Tracy, txmom2many</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2009 18:56:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You know I&#039;m just messin with you.  If I were to have a dog, and I needed someone who lived in California to keep them, I&#039;d chose you.  Course, I don&#039;t know your real name and I&#039;m guessing about California and I don&#039;t have a dog, but there ya go.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know I&#8217;m just messin with you.  If I were to have a dog, and I needed someone who lived in California to keep them, I&#8217;d chose you.  Course, I don&#8217;t know your real name and I&#8217;m guessing about California and I don&#8217;t have a dog, but there ya go.</p>
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		<title>By: Rufus</title>
		<link>http://www.threedonia.com/archives/14909/comment-page-1#comment-53089</link>
		<dc:creator>Rufus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2009 18:49:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Since Louis Farakhan says there are too many of us and science needs to devise a way to get our numbers down, maybe those fleas and rats are on to something.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Since Louis Farakhan says there are too many of us and science needs to devise a way to get our numbers down, maybe those fleas and rats are on to something.</p>
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		<title>By: Rufus</title>
		<link>http://www.threedonia.com/archives/14909/comment-page-1#comment-53088</link>
		<dc:creator>Rufus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2009 18:48:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I finally got through all of yesterday&#039;s comments.  Now I&#039;m caught up.  I feel like I was taken advantage of.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I finally got through all of yesterday&#8217;s comments.  Now I&#8217;m caught up.  I feel like I was taken advantage of.</p>
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		<title>By: Floyd</title>
		<link>http://www.threedonia.com/archives/14909/comment-page-1#comment-53056</link>
		<dc:creator>Floyd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2009 16:54:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Didn&#039;t some one on Star Trek use &quot;carbon-based life form&quot; as a slur?  The Borg perhaps?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Didn&#8217;t some one on Star Trek use &#8220;carbon-based life form&#8221; as a slur?  The Borg perhaps?</p>
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		<title>By: Lars Walker</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lars Walker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2009 16:34:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You talk about the plague as if it were a *bad* thing, you carbon source! ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You talk about the plague as if it were a *bad* thing, you carbon source! <img src='http://www.threedonia.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Kit</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2009 16:33:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>College Widow is Rocky Sullivan, Rufus.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>College Widow is Rocky Sullivan, Rufus.</p>
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		<title>By: Rufus</title>
		<link>http://www.threedonia.com/archives/14909/comment-page-1#comment-53051</link>
		<dc:creator>Rufus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2009 16:27:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for posting this, Floyd.  This is wonderful!  This is exactly the type of thing folks need to understand; there is always someone &quot;greener&quot; than thou, and this is what lies at the end of the road.  Or, as the College Widow (Welcome, College Widow!) aptly commented, &quot;Let&#039;s help the planet and just kill ourselves.&quot;

There&#039;s kind of a Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle to all this &quot;global warming,&quot; &quot;climate change,&quot; &quot;green planet&quot; stuff.  All of the models, all of the tests, all of the data are based on a &quot;natural&quot; state.  All the research, every experiment, begins with the data point of no human intervention.  In other words, the control is the assumption that the planet is better without humans and then every activity is measured to see what the human impact on this pristine control environment is.  Ipso facto, every conclusion will be, human activity bad.

Imagine you have a clear, 3 meter sphere in your lab and you&#039;ve pumped all the air out of it and created a vacuum.  That&#039;s your control.  That&#039;s your ideal.  Then you place a bunch of additional 3 meter spheres in the lab and put various things into them; water, dirt, argon, molasses...  Anything you want.  Then you give somebody a clip board and ask them to find the sphere that is most like the vacuum.  Well, none of them will be identical to the vacuum.  I know it sounds absurd, but that is literally what the entire green movement is based on.  Ipso facto, it is absurd.  Reports like this help lay people understand that.

At the base of all their research and assumptions is the goal of an Earth completely unaffected by human activity.  Therefore, the conclusion of all their research is pre-ordained; all human activity is bad.

Now, do the nimrods who wrote this book stop to think about the environmental impact of humans not owning pets?  Would there be more rodents in the world?  More outbreaks of the plague?  Would more blind people walk into traffic and be hit by cars?

As I wrote above, no matter how green you are there will always be someone greener than you.  If you sign on to the movement you have to accept that you will not truly be &quot;green&quot; until you remove yourself from the planet, as soon as possible.  That is the only possible conclusion of any research they do, because that is the hypothesis they begin with.  If that&#039;s a movement you want to be a part of, more power to you, but I&#039;ll put my faith in Doctors, Engineers and Scientists.  They&#039;ve been increasing productivity, minimizing waste and extending life for all of human history.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for posting this, Floyd.  This is wonderful!  This is exactly the type of thing folks need to understand; there is always someone &#8220;greener&#8221; than thou, and this is what lies at the end of the road.  Or, as the College Widow (Welcome, College Widow!) aptly commented, &#8220;Let&#8217;s help the planet and just kill ourselves.&#8221;</p>
<p>There&#8217;s kind of a Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle to all this &#8220;global warming,&#8221; &#8220;climate change,&#8221; &#8220;green planet&#8221; stuff.  All of the models, all of the tests, all of the data are based on a &#8220;natural&#8221; state.  All the research, every experiment, begins with the data point of no human intervention.  In other words, the control is the assumption that the planet is better without humans and then every activity is measured to see what the human impact on this pristine control environment is.  Ipso facto, every conclusion will be, human activity bad.</p>
<p>Imagine you have a clear, 3 meter sphere in your lab and you&#8217;ve pumped all the air out of it and created a vacuum.  That&#8217;s your control.  That&#8217;s your ideal.  Then you place a bunch of additional 3 meter spheres in the lab and put various things into them; water, dirt, argon, molasses&#8230;  Anything you want.  Then you give somebody a clip board and ask them to find the sphere that is most like the vacuum.  Well, none of them will be identical to the vacuum.  I know it sounds absurd, but that is literally what the entire green movement is based on.  Ipso facto, it is absurd.  Reports like this help lay people understand that.</p>
<p>At the base of all their research and assumptions is the goal of an Earth completely unaffected by human activity.  Therefore, the conclusion of all their research is pre-ordained; all human activity is bad.</p>
<p>Now, do the nimrods who wrote this book stop to think about the environmental impact of humans not owning pets?  Would there be more rodents in the world?  More outbreaks of the plague?  Would more blind people walk into traffic and be hit by cars?</p>
<p>As I wrote above, no matter how green you are there will always be someone greener than you.  If you sign on to the movement you have to accept that you will not truly be &#8220;green&#8221; until you remove yourself from the planet, as soon as possible.  That is the only possible conclusion of any research they do, because that is the hypothesis they begin with.  If that&#8217;s a movement you want to be a part of, more power to you, but I&#8217;ll put my faith in Doctors, Engineers and Scientists.  They&#8217;ve been increasing productivity, minimizing waste and extending life for all of human history.</p>
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		<title>By: JimmyC</title>
		<link>http://www.threedonia.com/archives/14909/comment-page-1#comment-53038</link>
		<dc:creator>JimmyC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2009 15:40:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So the dogs are the ones killing the polar bears? (Or at least, they would be if the polar bear population wasn&#039;t actually increasing).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So the dogs are the ones killing the polar bears? (Or at least, they would be if the polar bear population wasn&#8217;t actually increasing).</p>
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