UGH GUITAR MASS! We had a priest in Florida, a young one who was inching away from it. He added more Latin and a lot more traditional hymms. He was a regular hard case but we did like him a lot. A good guy.
I’d rather sing a capella than with the guitar and that’s with all due respect to the guitar player: he’s a nice young man who is very good. I do long for the return of the traditions. Not that I’ve ever seen them in my life as I grew up post Vatican II. I know there are many who are my age (41) and younger who want these things. I like our priest but suspect that as he is in his 30th year his own priestly education may be a little too “felt banner, guitar Mass and nuns in pants.” I’m new to the parish so I’m still getting a feel for it.
Widow, I grew in a very traditional conservative Baptist church, where we actually had a huge pipe organ, a robed choir, and sang out of a hymnal instead of having a sound and light show.
I still attend a traditional Baptist church, but here in Las Vegas…I MISS the traditional stuff.
many choir tunes are showy and not REALLY choral works in any way shape or form.
but I guess that’s what you get when people aren’t even expected to wear their “Sunday Best” anymore.
There’s an old and very large pipe organ at our church but only one person who knows how to play it and she’s at college most of the time. I guess it seems that some of these issues reflect the talent of the parishioners, eh?
You’re so right about the choir tunes not being ‘real’ choral works. I’d rather sing the traditional hymns – true sacred music or nothing. I’ve heard of worse at other churches, such as “Stairway to Heaven” in Mass. Really! I like Led Zep but what were they thinking?
I know what you mean about Sunday best. People should feel motivated to wear the best they have. Not everyone can afford to wear the nicest clothes but t-shirts with slogans? And I also see football jerseys sometimes. I know there must be something better in their closets. If jeans are all one has then wear the best but please, no “Twilight” shirts or game day jerseys!
I try not to judge my fellow parishioners, but I don’t understand what some folks are thinking. I see plenty of young’ins dressed in sports uniforms, including cleats. I’m glad folks are going to Mass, but we’ve got approx. 300 services every week, between Saturday and Sunday. Can’t you pick one that doesn’t start or end within ten minutes of your kids’ soccer game?
I was at a big event at the oldest Firefly’s High School yesterday. The school has a dress code, button down shirts or polos and slacks and for special events they wear jackets and ties. Everyone knew all the High School students would be dressed in jackets and ties yesterday and all the faculty were also wearing jackets and ties (pants suits for the women). At least 1/3 of the families there were dressed in jeans or sweats. What are people thinking?! “I understand that you may not like to wear a jacket and slacks on the weekend, or ever, and I understand you think sweats are more comfortable, but these kids took the time to shower and put on some nice clothes to see you today, and you’re in their building.”
Since I’m so involved at my kids’ schools there is likely a time where I was at school doing something physical and messy, so I may have wore jeans on an occassion like that, but I don’t think I have ever been in the hallways when school was in session in less than slacks and sport coat and I have never spoken with one of their teachers in anything less. Friday is casual day at my office and there are times when I bring a change of clothes if I know I have to be in my kids’ school.
People refuse to show any respect for institutions or professions, yet they are amazed when those institutions or professions become devalued. If you haven’t already figured it out I love the parable of the wedding clothes. 99.9% of folks who think they understand Jesus would be certain he would not chastise someone for not being appropriately dressed, yet he does. Maybe there is something more going on there…
The reason why I liked the Latin Mass we went to in Savannah so much is the simple fact it was a harkening back to very very very old traditions and the Church’s first beginnings. Its beautiful and solemn and very sacred.
I like the more contemporary music during mass. I like to sing at mass and I can sing those songs easier. I attend a very small Catholic church. Under 200 families in the parish and a simple, plain, maybe even downright homely church building. But until recently we still had a small pipe organ. No one plays it anymore so in a recent rehab it was removed, or at least the console was. The organist that could play it was a joy to listen too, but he played the contemporary stuff on it too and it sounded great. Guitar mass can be very nice, but Protestant churches that have a full band and the multi-media etc. make me uneasy.
How I wish I could have heard this at this morning’s Mass rather than the lame guitar! Thank you, Floyd!
UGH GUITAR MASS! We had a priest in Florida, a young one who was inching away from it. He added more Latin and a lot more traditional hymms. He was a regular hard case but we did like him a lot. A good guy.
I’d rather sing a capella than with the guitar and that’s with all due respect to the guitar player: he’s a nice young man who is very good. I do long for the return of the traditions. Not that I’ve ever seen them in my life as I grew up post Vatican II. I know there are many who are my age (41) and younger who want these things. I like our priest but suspect that as he is in his 30th year his own priestly education may be a little too “felt banner, guitar Mass and nuns in pants.” I’m new to the parish so I’m still getting a feel for it.
Widow, I grew in a very traditional conservative Baptist church, where we actually had a huge pipe organ, a robed choir, and sang out of a hymnal instead of having a sound and light show.
I still attend a traditional Baptist church, but here in Las Vegas…I MISS the traditional stuff.
many choir tunes are showy and not REALLY choral works in any way shape or form.
but I guess that’s what you get when people aren’t even expected to wear their “Sunday Best” anymore.
There’s an old and very large pipe organ at our church but only one person who knows how to play it and she’s at college most of the time. I guess it seems that some of these issues reflect the talent of the parishioners, eh?
You’re so right about the choir tunes not being ‘real’ choral works. I’d rather sing the traditional hymns – true sacred music or nothing. I’ve heard of worse at other churches, such as “Stairway to Heaven” in Mass. Really! I like Led Zep but what were they thinking?
I know what you mean about Sunday best. People should feel motivated to wear the best they have. Not everyone can afford to wear the nicest clothes but t-shirts with slogans? And I also see football jerseys sometimes. I know there must be something better in their closets. If jeans are all one has then wear the best but please, no “Twilight” shirts or game day jerseys!
I try not to judge my fellow parishioners, but I don’t understand what some folks are thinking. I see plenty of young’ins dressed in sports uniforms, including cleats. I’m glad folks are going to Mass, but we’ve got approx. 300 services every week, between Saturday and Sunday. Can’t you pick one that doesn’t start or end within ten minutes of your kids’ soccer game?
I was at a big event at the oldest Firefly’s High School yesterday. The school has a dress code, button down shirts or polos and slacks and for special events they wear jackets and ties. Everyone knew all the High School students would be dressed in jackets and ties yesterday and all the faculty were also wearing jackets and ties (pants suits for the women). At least 1/3 of the families there were dressed in jeans or sweats. What are people thinking?! “I understand that you may not like to wear a jacket and slacks on the weekend, or ever, and I understand you think sweats are more comfortable, but these kids took the time to shower and put on some nice clothes to see you today, and you’re in their building.”
Since I’m so involved at my kids’ schools there is likely a time where I was at school doing something physical and messy, so I may have wore jeans on an occassion like that, but I don’t think I have ever been in the hallways when school was in session in less than slacks and sport coat and I have never spoken with one of their teachers in anything less. Friday is casual day at my office and there are times when I bring a change of clothes if I know I have to be in my kids’ school.
People refuse to show any respect for institutions or professions, yet they are amazed when those institutions or professions become devalued. If you haven’t already figured it out I love the parable of the wedding clothes. 99.9% of folks who think they understand Jesus would be certain he would not chastise someone for not being appropriately dressed, yet he does. Maybe there is something more going on there…
File this under schadenfreude: I’m secretly pleased when someone wears a team jersey to Mass and the team loses.
That probably merits a trip to the confessional.
With the temps getting cooler here lately I’ve noticed most people wear their coats throughout Mass. Maybe that’s all one needs…a really nice coat?
That’s very funny, The College Widow!
Scarlatti is not someone that I have given much of a listen to in the past aside from his multitudes of harpsichord sonatas.
very unfamiliar with his choral works. thanks for the vid floyd.
The reason why I liked the Latin Mass we went to in Savannah so much is the simple fact it was a harkening back to very very very old traditions and the Church’s first beginnings. Its beautiful and solemn and very sacred.
I like the more contemporary music during mass. I like to sing at mass and I can sing those songs easier. I attend a very small Catholic church. Under 200 families in the parish and a simple, plain, maybe even downright homely church building. But until recently we still had a small pipe organ. No one plays it anymore so in a recent rehab it was removed, or at least the console was. The organist that could play it was a joy to listen too, but he played the contemporary stuff on it too and it sounded great. Guitar mass can be very nice, but Protestant churches that have a full band and the multi-media etc. make me uneasy.