Comments on: Threedonia’s Word for the Day — Friday

By: republibot 2.0

republibot 2.0 — Sat, 07 Nov 2009 14:02:31 +0000

When my brother-bot and I were at school at (undisclosed location) Francis Schaeffer’s films were part of the humanities curriculum. We endured “How Should We Then Live” for hours and hours. Even then, we knew of Frankie, and that he was bad news.

I’m surprised that it took so long for the left to find him.

By: Daniel

Daniel — Sat, 07 Nov 2009 03:18:19 +0000

Unfortunately, Frankie Schaeffer is someone I have to count as one my co-religionists, as I converted to Eastern Orthodoxy nine years ago. He is a disgrace. Frankie is a smarmy little firebrand who runs around torching everything around and giggling as it all burns to the ground. I’m not particularly surprised to see him embraced by radical leftists like Rachel Maddow, as that ideological bent attracts small-minded, self-loathing individuals who only want to spit on their parent’s memory.

By: The College Widow

The College Widow — Fri, 06 Nov 2009 20:41:57 +0000

My internet connection is painfully slow today but will try to read more later on the topic at hand. I’m not familiar with Schaeffer or his writings. I’ve heard of them, of course. Based on what Floyd posted it seems typical of the attacks I see on Christians locally on a newspaper’s online forums. It’s not that they are just happy with their non-belief or differing views, they take great delight in depicting every person of faith as a cliche: all pro-life people hate women and could care less about the babies once born and all those who defend traditional marriage hate gays and want them to die. Anyone who has a strong set of values is seen as intolerant and unforgiving.

I think Blackhawk really has a point in describing this as more of a political movement.

By: Rufus

Rufus — Fri, 06 Nov 2009 16:40:55 +0000

Just re-read this. Don’t think I was clear.

I’m agreeing with Floyd that some Christian educational institutions do secular better than most secular institutions.

By: Floyd

Floyd — Fri, 06 Nov 2009 16:16:07 +0000

G-MAN — this is Francis’ son Frank (or Frankie) — Francis died in the 1980s.

By: G-MAN

G-MAN — Fri, 06 Nov 2009 15:44:37 +0000

I read a few of Schaefer’s books in the 70’s. They were nothing like this last one.

By: Rufus

Rufus — Fri, 06 Nov 2009 15:33:51 +0000

Floyd,

I can’t speak for Southern Baptist Universities but I’ll stack the curriculum at my oldest son’s Jesuit High School next to any High School and most Universities in this country. He knows more about non-Christian religions than 99.99999% of kids graduating from secular or public schools and, except for Theology class, it’s almost all Classics.

The Apostles often referred to Christ as “rabbi” which translates to “teacher.”

By: Lars Walker

Lars Walker — Fri, 06 Nov 2009 15:02:12 +0000

I’ve never met Franky Schaeffer, but I’ve known a couple people who did. His story, as I understand it, goes something like this.

He was the youngest child in his family, and his father’s only son. That would have made him likely to be spoiled in the first place, but on top of that he got polio, and they were afraid they’d lose him for a while (he survived, but walks with a limp). It seems to have resembled a biblical model his father should have heeded, “Eli never asked his sons, ‘Why have you done thus?’” Franky pretty much ruled the roost, and expected his own way in everything.

As he grew up, he became fascinated with liturgical and high church forms of Christianity, which offended the Presbyterianism of his parents. As an adult wrote a novel called Portofino, about a sensitive boy being raised by evangelical missionaries in Europe, which portrayed his family in a very unflattering light (he claims to be amazed that they were offended by it, since it was just a work of fiction!). Eventually he converted to Eastern Orthodoxy, but I think I’ve read recently that he’s more or less abandoned Christianity altogether (I could be wrong about that. His Wikipedia page says nothing of it).

He appears to be a narcissist, forever trying to get outside his father’s shadow. And if he can’t excel his father as a warrior for conservatism, he’s just as happy to try to excel him as a liberal.

By: Tracy, txmom2many

Tracy, txmom2many — Fri, 06 Nov 2009 14:16:11 +0000

I tried to read the whole thing, but it was nuts. I got to the stuff about Revelation. I guess he doesn’t believe that no matter what human intervention took place, God was the one who put the Bible together.

I didn’t realize Christ centered homeschooling was part of a cult movement. We have chosen Classical, but we do talk about how Christianity impacts history, science, and literature, either for good or bad. My friends who do use more Christ centered curriculum, while I think some of them take it a bit far(the pumpkin carving gospel, really?), don’t seem to be fringe types with guns hidden in their basements to kill abortion drs with.

I spent some time reading about the guy who did the Holocaust museum shooting, nothing in any report about him being an evangelical, or even a Christian. So how come it’s our fault he did that?

The Left Behind series isn’t good literature, but it’s certainly nothing like anti-Semitic.

Sounds like someone has daddy issues.

By: blackhawk12151

blackhawk12151 — Fri, 06 Nov 2009 14:05:00 +0000

The Religious Left is one of the most destructive forces in our country right now. Their religion is a product of their political views, not the other way around. They bend over backwards to coddle the worst elements of our society while viciously attacking Christians they see as “too Christian.” I have confronted people from the religious left many times and the vast majority are political animals using their faith as a smoke screen.

They are the worst people ever.