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		<title>By: G-MAN</title>
		<link>http://www.threedonia.com/archives/15684/comment-page-1#comment-55743</link>
		<dc:creator>G-MAN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 16:45:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Venetianphoenix, but looking over the website, I&#039;m not convinced.  I&#039;ve downloaded the &quot;bill&quot; and will go through it myself.  I&#039;ve briefly checked it out, and the politifact check announced the page 22 claim as false.  Correctly, the bill does specify a survey, but it doesn&#039;t rule out an audit.  And the way beaurocracies are run, at the whim of the beaurocrat, it&#039;s often what the bill does NOT say is the pitfall.

Page 30 which mandates the &quot;Health Benefits Advisory Committee&quot; AKA death panel, is stacked heavily by the president and one of his appointees.  Also, the membership makeup is bizarre.  For example, the one doctor allowed on the panel has no more influence than say a consumer or labor official (also on the panel).  It&#039;s basically a collection of special interests, and the &quot;at least one practicing physician or other health professional&quot; will as a result, not have much input.  These are the people who will define the standards.  Good God!!! 

I&#039;ll spend the next few days going through this thing, but like I stated above, I really don&#039;t have to stick my nose up a skunk&#039;s ass to tell it&#039;s a skunk.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Venetianphoenix, but looking over the website, I&#8217;m not convinced.  I&#8217;ve downloaded the &#8220;bill&#8221; and will go through it myself.  I&#8217;ve briefly checked it out, and the politifact check announced the page 22 claim as false.  Correctly, the bill does specify a survey, but it doesn&#8217;t rule out an audit.  And the way beaurocracies are run, at the whim of the beaurocrat, it&#8217;s often what the bill does NOT say is the pitfall.</p>
<p>Page 30 which mandates the &#8220;Health Benefits Advisory Committee&#8221; AKA death panel, is stacked heavily by the president and one of his appointees.  Also, the membership makeup is bizarre.  For example, the one doctor allowed on the panel has no more influence than say a consumer or labor official (also on the panel).  It&#8217;s basically a collection of special interests, and the &#8220;at least one practicing physician or other health professional&#8221; will as a result, not have much input.  These are the people who will define the standards.  Good God!!! </p>
<p>I&#8217;ll spend the next few days going through this thing, but like I stated above, I really don&#8217;t have to stick my nose up a skunk&#8217;s ass to tell it&#8217;s a skunk.</p>
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		<title>By: Venetianphoenix</title>
		<link>http://www.threedonia.com/archives/15684/comment-page-1#comment-55689</link>
		<dc:creator>Venetianphoenix</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 06:21:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hey G-Man and Veruckt:

Don&#039;t bother with that forwarded email. Conservative rhetoric debunked:
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2009/jul/30/e-mail-analysis-health-bill-needs-check-/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hey G-Man and Veruckt:</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t bother with that forwarded email. Conservative rhetoric debunked:<br />
<a href="http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2009/jul/30/e-mail-analysis-health-bill-needs-check-/" rel="nofollow">http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2009/jul/30/e-mail-analysis-health-bill-needs-check-/</a></p>
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		<title>By: G-MAN</title>
		<link>http://www.threedonia.com/archives/15684/comment-page-1#comment-55673</link>
		<dc:creator>G-MAN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 02:08:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have no verification.  It was forwarded in an email, but since V was doing some research, I thought it may help.  I haven&#039;t had the time to download the &quot;bill&quot; and check it myself.

As you know, the bill is 2,000 pages.  While it is true, you can&#039;t judge a book by it&#039;s cover, it&#039;s also true you don&#039;t have to stick your nose up a skunk&#039;s ass to tell if it&#039;s a skunk.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have no verification.  It was forwarded in an email, but since V was doing some research, I thought it may help.  I haven&#8217;t had the time to download the &#8220;bill&#8221; and check it myself.</p>
<p>As you know, the bill is 2,000 pages.  While it is true, you can&#8217;t judge a book by it&#8217;s cover, it&#8217;s also true you don&#8217;t have to stick your nose up a skunk&#8217;s ass to tell if it&#8217;s a skunk.</p>
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		<title>By: Kit</title>
		<link>http://www.threedonia.com/archives/15684/comment-page-1#comment-55640</link>
		<dc:creator>Kit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 00:02:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hope the Tea Party guys go Crazy over this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hope the Tea Party guys go Crazy over this.</p>
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		<title>By: Eric</title>
		<link>http://www.threedonia.com/archives/15684/comment-page-1#comment-55632</link>
		<dc:creator>Eric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Nov 2009 23:19:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>G-Man, first, thanks for posting this. Spreading it far and wide, but some folks rightfully asking for source backup. Can you please provide?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>G-Man, first, thanks for posting this. Spreading it far and wide, but some folks rightfully asking for source backup. Can you please provide?</p>
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		<title>By: Kenn Christenson</title>
		<link>http://www.threedonia.com/archives/15684/comment-page-1#comment-55608</link>
		<dc:creator>Kenn Christenson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Nov 2009 18:06:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anyone see this? http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=G44NCvNDLfc

An excellent summary of what the Dems are forcing on us.

G-MAN - way to go with that list!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anyone see this? <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=G44NCvNDLfc" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=G44NCvNDLfc</a></p>
<p>An excellent summary of what the Dems are forcing on us.</p>
<p>G-MAN &#8211; way to go with that list!</p>
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		<title>By: Stephanie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stephanie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Nov 2009 16:45:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmmmm maybe this artical from Hotair needs its own post.....

http://hotair.com/archives/2009/11/08/is-this-the-high-water-mark-for-obamacare/

Let not your hearts be troubled...the Senate can kill this thing, slowly, and with plodding self assurance...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmmmm maybe this artical from Hotair needs its own post&#8230;..</p>
<p><a href="http://hotair.com/archives/2009/11/08/is-this-the-high-water-mark-for-obamacare/" rel="nofollow">http://hotair.com/archives/2009/11/08/is-this-the-high-water-mark-for-obamacare/</a></p>
<p>Let not your hearts be troubled&#8230;the Senate can kill this thing, slowly, and with plodding self assurance&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Raoul Ortega</title>
		<link>http://www.threedonia.com/archives/15684/comment-page-1#comment-55597</link>
		<dc:creator>Raoul Ortega</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Nov 2009 16:17:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why is it that when a GOP squish joins the other side, it&#039;s &quot;he was voting the will of his constituants&quot;, but when the Dems like the Blue Puppies go against their constituents, they are &quot;voting for higher principles than politics as usual&quot;? Whenever one of these important bills comes up, there&#039;s always some leading Stupid Party member willing to sell out and give aid and comfort to the Dems. It is so tiresome.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why is it that when a GOP squish joins the other side, it&#8217;s &#8220;he was voting the will of his constituants&#8221;, but when the Dems like the Blue Puppies go against their constituents, they are &#8220;voting for higher principles than politics as usual&#8221;? Whenever one of these important bills comes up, there&#8217;s always some leading Stupid Party member willing to sell out and give aid and comfort to the Dems. It is so tiresome.</p>
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		<title>By: Stephanie</title>
		<link>http://www.threedonia.com/archives/15684/comment-page-1#comment-55596</link>
		<dc:creator>Stephanie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Nov 2009 16:13:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well what we need is the Senate to just say no. Lieberman God love him has said he&#039;d help the GOP filibuster the bill. We need to work on others like Bayh etc. If they can quietly usher Crap and Tax into a corner they can do this with this piece of filth. Now, if I were John Roberts I&#039;d send a letter to Nasi Pelosi and her flying monkeys and tell her....um....um...um....we here at SCOTUS are going to review this bill and if its Unconstitutional it will be struck down...thought you&#039;d like to know.....I&#039;d already have my over worked clerks doing the tear it apart job.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well what we need is the Senate to just say no. Lieberman God love him has said he&#8217;d help the GOP filibuster the bill. We need to work on others like Bayh etc. If they can quietly usher Crap and Tax into a corner they can do this with this piece of filth. Now, if I were John Roberts I&#8217;d send a letter to Nasi Pelosi and her flying monkeys and tell her&#8230;.um&#8230;.um&#8230;um&#8230;.we here at SCOTUS are going to review this bill and if its Unconstitutional it will be struck down&#8230;thought you&#8217;d like to know&#8230;..I&#8217;d already have my over worked clerks doing the tear it apart job.</p>
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		<title>By: Veruckt</title>
		<link>http://www.threedonia.com/archives/15684/comment-page-1#comment-55595</link>
		<dc:creator>Veruckt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Nov 2009 16:12:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That will actually help me. I&#039;ve been needing some sort of a guide to send me to &quot;troubling areas&quot; of the bill. I&#039;ll go to the referenced page and see if that is accurate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That will actually help me. I&#8217;ve been needing some sort of a guide to send me to &#8220;troubling areas&#8221; of the bill. I&#8217;ll go to the referenced page and see if that is accurate.</p>
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