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		<title>By: Eric</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Nov 2009 00:15:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh no, my Crap of Bull episodes are being attacked, by a self-described lefty, one who used to bring decent debate to the table. What forever shall I do with BarryO calling me faux something or other. That&#039;s right, not give two shits and keep enjoying life.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh no, my Crap of Bull episodes are being attacked, by a self-described lefty, one who used to bring decent debate to the table. What forever shall I do with BarryO calling me faux something or other. That&#8217;s right, not give two shits and keep enjoying life.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Nov 2009 21:44:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Barry, two of the shows: &quot;The Office&quot; and &quot;Heroes,&quot; are specifically about recycling.  Since you evidently know the truth that the vast majority of recycling projects are &lt;i&gt;bad&lt;/i&gt; for the environment, I would have thought that you would oppose this particular instance of &quot;raising awareness.&quot;

Since the vast majority of people believe the fiction that recycling is helping to &quot;save the planet,&quot; shouldn&#039;t there be an awareness-raising campaign that seeks to tell them the truth?

I&#039;m looking forward to seeing &quot;The Office&quot; next week, because if they make Dwight a mindless &quot;recycling Nazi,&quot; they might actually make something worth watching.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Barry, two of the shows: &#8220;The Office&#8221; and &#8220;Heroes,&#8221; are specifically about recycling.  Since you evidently know the truth that the vast majority of recycling projects are <i>bad</i> for the environment, I would have thought that you would oppose this particular instance of &#8220;raising awareness.&#8221;</p>
<p>Since the vast majority of people believe the fiction that recycling is helping to &#8220;save the planet,&#8221; shouldn&#8217;t there be an awareness-raising campaign that seeks to tell them the truth?</p>
<p>I&#8217;m looking forward to seeing &#8220;The Office&#8221; next week, because if they make Dwight a mindless &#8220;recycling Nazi,&#8221; they might actually make something worth watching.</p>
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		<title>By: Raoul Ortega</title>
		<link>http://www.threedonia.com/archives/15989/comment-page-1#comment-56396</link>
		<dc:creator>Raoul Ortega</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Nov 2009 20:28:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt; Oh, those new coal plants are being built in small towns in TX, where the pollutants literally rain down on the people living nearby.&lt;/i&gt;

And how is that worse than what Californicans do? Which is to build their coal fired powerplants hundreds of miles downwind in Northern Nevada or on the Navajo Reservation in Arizona/New Mexico?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i> Oh, those new coal plants are being built in small towns in TX, where the pollutants literally rain down on the people living nearby.</i></p>
<p>And how is that worse than what Californicans do? Which is to build their coal fired powerplants hundreds of miles downwind in Northern Nevada or on the Navajo Reservation in Arizona/New Mexico?</p>
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		<title>By: Mr. Sideous</title>
		<link>http://www.threedonia.com/archives/15989/comment-page-1#comment-56393</link>
		<dc:creator>Mr. Sideous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Nov 2009 19:15:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just like the commandment from on high to have a homosexual in every show. Or take an existing character and turn them homosexual (even better!)

At last Modern Family makes fun of the homosexual character. The rest treat them like they are one of the Vs who have come among us to bring compassion and understanding.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just like the commandment from on high to have a homosexual in every show. Or take an existing character and turn them homosexual (even better!)</p>
<p>At last Modern Family makes fun of the homosexual character. The rest treat them like they are one of the Vs who have come among us to bring compassion and understanding.</p>
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		<title>By: Mr. Sideous</title>
		<link>http://www.threedonia.com/archives/15989/comment-page-1#comment-56391</link>
		<dc:creator>Mr. Sideous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Nov 2009 19:10:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a perfect illustration of spitting up opinions and serving them as facts.

You think people are not thinking of the environment unless the Enlightened Elites tell us. Yes, libs think we are all this stupid. But no, Barry O, we don&#039;t need to be told by a smug minority how to walk, and where to toss trash, etc. I think we had that figured out long before Tina Fey and her ilk thought to bring us a &quot;teaching moment&quot; (A pompous statement if there ever was one).

Keeping thermostats low? Didn&#039;t Carter lecture us on the same thing. I remember him wearing a sweater too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a perfect illustration of spitting up opinions and serving them as facts.</p>
<p>You think people are not thinking of the environment unless the Enlightened Elites tell us. Yes, libs think we are all this stupid. But no, Barry O, we don&#8217;t need to be told by a smug minority how to walk, and where to toss trash, etc. I think we had that figured out long before Tina Fey and her ilk thought to bring us a &#8220;teaching moment&#8221; (A pompous statement if there ever was one).</p>
<p>Keeping thermostats low? Didn&#8217;t Carter lecture us on the same thing. I remember him wearing a sweater too.</p>
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		<title>By: blackhawk12151</title>
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		<dc:creator>blackhawk12151</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Nov 2009 19:08:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh my God how will Eric ever recover from being thrown under the bus. That was devastating. You are a rhetorical ninja BarryO.

Fair enough BarryO, but I bet you&#039;d be the first to start bitching if a conservative administration was asking TV shows to insert plot lines about social security reform or domestic oil drilling. I&#039;m guessing you just like to see people on TV who agree with you and don&#039;t care about clunky exposition or the bastardization of the scripts. But hey, GE will makes billions off the green movement and since they are big democratic donors I guess that is corporate greed you&#039;re OK with.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh my God how will Eric ever recover from being thrown under the bus. That was devastating. You are a rhetorical ninja BarryO.</p>
<p>Fair enough BarryO, but I bet you&#8217;d be the first to start bitching if a conservative administration was asking TV shows to insert plot lines about social security reform or domestic oil drilling. I&#8217;m guessing you just like to see people on TV who agree with you and don&#8217;t care about clunky exposition or the bastardization of the scripts. But hey, GE will makes billions off the green movement and since they are big democratic donors I guess that is corporate greed you&#8217;re OK with.</p>
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		<title>By: BarryO</title>
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		<dc:creator>BarryO</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Nov 2009 18:58:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mike.  It&#039;s not recycling that&#039;s &quot;green,&quot; it&#039;s conserving energy.  Turn off the lights when you leave the room is a small way, keep the thermostat at a reasonable temperature,etc.  NBC has done this for several years.  It&#039;s not dictated by politics, but by conscience.  Because Al Gore is the &quot;champion&quot; for the movement as &quot;movie star&quot; they throw him in to add some sort of legitimacy to their cause.  I don&#039;t really buy it, but like a good public service announcement the point is to increase awareness.  Recycling is a whole other story.  Only aluminum cans are effectively &quot;recycled.&quot;  Other than than, it&#039;s just to make you feel good, you&#039;re right.  

@Blackhawk - if you are worried about the &quot;faux agreement tone,&quot; then you are still a relative newbie.  People respond all the time in that manner.  Don&#039;t get thrown by the tone, because there are facts in there that are scary.  Stick to some good, old blues in Toledo with Eric (the king of &quot;faux agreement tone&quot;) - sorry Eric you got thrown under the bus on that one since you were standing close to him, and I have seen your Crap of Bull episodes, comrade.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike.  It&#8217;s not recycling that&#8217;s &#8220;green,&#8221; it&#8217;s conserving energy.  Turn off the lights when you leave the room is a small way, keep the thermostat at a reasonable temperature,etc.  NBC has done this for several years.  It&#8217;s not dictated by politics, but by conscience.  Because Al Gore is the &#8220;champion&#8221; for the movement as &#8220;movie star&#8221; they throw him in to add some sort of legitimacy to their cause.  I don&#8217;t really buy it, but like a good public service announcement the point is to increase awareness.  Recycling is a whole other story.  Only aluminum cans are effectively &#8220;recycled.&#8221;  Other than than, it&#8217;s just to make you feel good, you&#8217;re right.  </p>
<p>@Blackhawk &#8211; if you are worried about the &#8220;faux agreement tone,&#8221; then you are still a relative newbie.  People respond all the time in that manner.  Don&#8217;t get thrown by the tone, because there are facts in there that are scary.  Stick to some good, old blues in Toledo with Eric (the king of &#8220;faux agreement tone&#8221;) &#8211; sorry Eric you got thrown under the bus on that one since you were standing close to him, and I have seen your Crap of Bull episodes, comrade.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
		<link>http://www.threedonia.com/archives/15989/comment-page-1#comment-56382</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Nov 2009 18:34:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice rant Barry, but you&#039;re missing the point.  I know &lt;i&gt;you&lt;/i&gt; watch 30 Rock, and I know that &lt;i&gt;you&lt;/i&gt; think recycling is a great idea.  (The fact that it takes more energy to recycle most things, and that recycling paper in particular is very polluting, is apparently irrelevant to you.  It makes you &lt;i&gt;feeeeel&lt;/i&gt; good.)

The question is, why would you prefer to be lectured to by Al Gore than to watch your favorite comedy show come up with the best idea they can, rather than have a theme dictated to them from on high?

Are you a masochist?  Or do you like having your beliefs reinforced so much that you actually &lt;i&gt;do&lt;/i&gt; find this entertaining?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice rant Barry, but you&#8217;re missing the point.  I know <i>you</i> watch 30 Rock, and I know that <i>you</i> think recycling is a great idea.  (The fact that it takes more energy to recycle most things, and that recycling paper in particular is very polluting, is apparently irrelevant to you.  It makes you <i>feeeeel</i> good.)</p>
<p>The question is, why would you prefer to be lectured to by Al Gore than to watch your favorite comedy show come up with the best idea they can, rather than have a theme dictated to them from on high?</p>
<p>Are you a masochist?  Or do you like having your beliefs reinforced so much that you actually <i>do</i> find this entertaining?</p>
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		<title>By: blackhawk12151</title>
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		<dc:creator>blackhawk12151</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Nov 2009 17:45:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Once again BarryO adds nothing but the same old talking points. If I wanted to here this same old stuff over and over I&#039;d go to HuffPo. And anyone who has something constructive to say avoids the &quot;faux agreement tone.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Once again BarryO adds nothing but the same old talking points. If I wanted to here this same old stuff over and over I&#8217;d go to HuffPo. And anyone who has something constructive to say avoids the &#8220;faux agreement tone.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: G-MAN</title>
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		<dc:creator>G-MAN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Nov 2009 17:40:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Baryy O.  Come back out of left field.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Baryy O.  Come back out of left field.</p>
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