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		<title>By: G-MAN</title>
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		<dc:creator>G-MAN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Nov 2009 17:38:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I missed the news the evening this came out due to a storm that block my satellite dish.  Last night there was nothing about the hacking.  Not surprising.  There were several days of Sarah&#039;s email hacking and nothing about exposing a billion dollar scam.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I missed the news the evening this came out due to a storm that block my satellite dish.  Last night there was nothing about the hacking.  Not surprising.  There were several days of Sarah&#8217;s email hacking and nothing about exposing a billion dollar scam.</p>
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		<title>By: Raoul Ortega</title>
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		<dc:creator>Raoul Ortega</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Nov 2009 04:02:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From Rand Simberg&#039;s site, I got this:

http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/11/21/cru-emails-search-engine-now-online/

Which leads to a searchable database of all these emails. (And in the comments, the guy who set it up talks about it.)

A friend of mine from college eventually got a PhD in Meteorology, studying and simulating thunderstorms.  I lost track of her back in the mid-90s or so. I&#039;ve always been curious to know if she&#039;d been coopted, and here was a chance to find out. I submitted her name to the database. I was relieved to see that her name isn&#039;t mentioned anywhere.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From Rand Simberg&#8217;s site, I got this:</p>
<p><a href="http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/11/21/cru-emails-search-engine-now-online/" rel="nofollow">http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/11/21/cru-emails-search-engine-now-online/</a></p>
<p>Which leads to a searchable database of all these emails. (And in the comments, the guy who set it up talks about it.)</p>
<p>A friend of mine from college eventually got a PhD in Meteorology, studying and simulating thunderstorms.  I lost track of her back in the mid-90s or so. I&#8217;ve always been curious to know if she&#8217;d been coopted, and here was a chance to find out. I submitted her name to the database. I was relieved to see that her name isn&#8217;t mentioned anywhere.</p>
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		<title>By: JohnFN</title>
		<link>http://www.threedonia.com/archives/16442/comment-page-1#comment-57356</link>
		<dc:creator>JohnFN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Nov 2009 02:17:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Schmidt&#039;s citing of the tenets of science makes for a good laugh. How proper for someone whose circle of influence has declared &quot;the debate over&quot; for years and smeared anyone who believes otherwise, to fall back on the testaments and vows of scientific research as he ducks for cover. 

I&#039;m all for cleaning the planet. Reducing CO2? No problem, lets find a way to do this through the free market with out annihilating our way of life. Gregg Easterbrook, hardly a right-winger by any means, believes the free market is not only the best approach economically but scientifically. The spirit of inventions has always been toward the cleaner and the better, ride it like the wind. Schmidt and Gore would label him a denier.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Schmidt&#8217;s citing of the tenets of science makes for a good laugh. How proper for someone whose circle of influence has declared &#8220;the debate over&#8221; for years and smeared anyone who believes otherwise, to fall back on the testaments and vows of scientific research as he ducks for cover. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m all for cleaning the planet. Reducing CO2? No problem, lets find a way to do this through the free market with out annihilating our way of life. Gregg Easterbrook, hardly a right-winger by any means, believes the free market is not only the best approach economically but scientifically. The spirit of inventions has always been toward the cleaner and the better, ride it like the wind. Schmidt and Gore would label him a denier.</p>
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		<title>By: ryukyu</title>
		<link>http://www.threedonia.com/archives/16442/comment-page-1#comment-57350</link>
		<dc:creator>ryukyu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Nov 2009 00:53:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is good stuff along with Gore claiming the Earth&#039;s core is several million degrees.  Case closed.  In the future Gore can claim he invented himself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is good stuff along with Gore claiming the Earth&#8217;s core is several million degrees.  Case closed.  In the future Gore can claim he invented himself.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin S</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kevin S</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Nov 2009 00:18:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve been saying for a while, I&#039;ve worked on complex models and simulations for 30 years, and the climate people have been producing results from crummy models for years. As in the Nixon years...follow the money.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been saying for a while, I&#8217;ve worked on complex models and simulations for 30 years, and the climate people have been producing results from crummy models for years. As in the Nixon years&#8230;follow the money.</p>
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		<title>By: RES</title>
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		<dc:creator>RES</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Nov 2009 00:03:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Science as consensus would have Galileo denounced as a terracentric denier because the earth as hub of the universe was accepted science.  We won&#039;t even start on what dangers were posed by the outlandish theories (ravings) of Louis Pasteur and William Harvey.

N.B. - if you accept the mathematical proposition that all motion is relative it is a short step to recognizing that the selection of a single center of motion is arbitrary and could as easily be the earth as any other celestial point.  But the math to demonstrate that is much harder.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Science as consensus would have Galileo denounced as a terracentric denier because the earth as hub of the universe was accepted science.  We won&#8217;t even start on what dangers were posed by the outlandish theories (ravings) of Louis Pasteur and William Harvey.</p>
<p>N.B. &#8211; if you accept the mathematical proposition that all motion is relative it is a short step to recognizing that the selection of a single center of motion is arbitrary and could as easily be the earth as any other celestial point.  But the math to demonstrate that is much harder.</p>
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		<title>By: Raoul Ortega</title>
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		<dc:creator>Raoul Ortega</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 23:38:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And consider the ironies. After all the attempts to stop Nixon, or all the times he was left for dead politically, it was his own use of gov&#039;t equipment and obsessive retention of incriminating evidence that brought him down.

I mean, really. Don&#039;t these arrogant clowns realize that you never, ever use your employer&#039;s email for anything other than official purposes, and never, ever say anything in them that could come back to haunt you? Who needs to &quot;connect the dots&quot; when the perp comes right out and tells his fellow conspirators exactly what he&#039;s doing and exactly what is going on? Maybe what they need to teach in grad school is the proper way to circumvent the law and how to run a conspiracy.

(This doesn&#039;t surprise me. These over-educated academic types really do live in an echo chamber where all they hear are people just like themselves. They will say outrageous, nasty things in emails and should you object, you, the objector, are just being overly sensitive. How dare you disagree with the consensus.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And consider the ironies. After all the attempts to stop Nixon, or all the times he was left for dead politically, it was his own use of gov&#8217;t equipment and obsessive retention of incriminating evidence that brought him down.</p>
<p>I mean, really. Don&#8217;t these arrogant clowns realize that you never, ever use your employer&#8217;s email for anything other than official purposes, and never, ever say anything in them that could come back to haunt you? Who needs to &#8220;connect the dots&#8221; when the perp comes right out and tells his fellow conspirators exactly what he&#8217;s doing and exactly what is going on? Maybe what they need to teach in grad school is the proper way to circumvent the law and how to run a conspiracy.</p>
<p>(This doesn&#8217;t surprise me. These over-educated academic types really do live in an echo chamber where all they hear are people just like themselves. They will say outrageous, nasty things in emails and should you object, you, the objector, are just being overly sensitive. How dare you disagree with the consensus.</p>
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		<title>By: No one in particular</title>
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		<dc:creator>No one in particular</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 22:54:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Check out Nixon&#039;s defense of the Watergate tapes. I think you&#039;ll find some similarities.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Check out Nixon&#8217;s defense of the Watergate tapes. I think you&#8217;ll find some similarities.</p>
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