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		<title>By: Jeff Stone</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff Stone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Mar 2010 06:33:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Keep passing on the truth to the next generation.
Since &quot;we&quot; are out reproducing &quot;them&quot;, we will eventually win.
Always remember that good triumphs over evil.

When the words &quot;Reagan&quot; and &quot;fool&quot; are typed into the google, there is hope that this post will be the chosen one to click.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Keep passing on the truth to the next generation.<br />
Since &#8220;we&#8221; are out reproducing &#8220;them&#8221;, we will eventually win.<br />
Always remember that good triumphs over evil.</p>
<p>When the words &#8220;Reagan&#8221; and &#8220;fool&#8221; are typed into the google, there is hope that this post will be the chosen one to click.</p>
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		<title>By: blackhawk12151</title>
		<link>http://www.threedonia.com/archives/21241/comment-page-1#comment-72254</link>
		<dc:creator>blackhawk12151</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Mar 2010 19:46:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s not about human nature changing. See my overlong and most definitely over-wrought response on the These are the Days thread.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s not about human nature changing. See my overlong and most definitely over-wrought response on the These are the Days thread.</p>
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		<title>By: Eric</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Mar 2010 19:03:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Eh, he played for Michigan. I&#039;d give the title to ex-lifeguard Ronnie. ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eh, he played for Michigan. I&#8217;d give the title to ex-lifeguard Ronnie. <img src='http://www.threedonia.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Rufus</title>
		<link>http://www.threedonia.com/archives/21241/comment-page-1#comment-72250</link>
		<dc:creator>Rufus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Mar 2010 18:56:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Blackhawk,

If your point is human nature has somehow changed with your generation, then I disagree.  When I was in High School SNL debuted.  (I know, I&#039;m old.)  Every Saturday night everyone in the country watched Chevy Chase stumble and fall as Gerald Ford.  Ipso facto, President Ford was an uncoordinated buffoon.  Ask me or any of my peers in High School and that&#039;s about all we knew of the President.  Turns out he is probably the best athlete who has ever held the office.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Blackhawk,</p>
<p>If your point is human nature has somehow changed with your generation, then I disagree.  When I was in High School SNL debuted.  (I know, I&#8217;m old.)  Every Saturday night everyone in the country watched Chevy Chase stumble and fall as Gerald Ford.  Ipso facto, President Ford was an uncoordinated buffoon.  Ask me or any of my peers in High School and that&#8217;s about all we knew of the President.  Turns out he is probably the best athlete who has ever held the office.</p>
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		<title>By: These Are the Days &#171; threedonia.com</title>
		<link>http://www.threedonia.com/archives/21241/comment-page-1#comment-72239</link>
		<dc:creator>These Are the Days &#171; threedonia.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Mar 2010 18:10:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Back to the Future  [...]</description>
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		<title>By: -fritz-</title>
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		<dc:creator>-fritz-</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Mar 2010 17:14:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m impressed Rufus! I thought I was the only human on earth that had heard or used that Pogo quote.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m impressed Rufus! I thought I was the only human on earth that had heard or used that Pogo quote.</p>
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		<title>By: Jake Was Here</title>
		<link>http://www.threedonia.com/archives/21241/comment-page-1#comment-72220</link>
		<dc:creator>Jake Was Here</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Mar 2010 16:58:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m pretty sure that if the American people haven&#039;t taken up arms by now, then they never will.

Uncle Sam can put his head between his legs and kiss his ass goodbye.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m pretty sure that if the American people haven&#8217;t taken up arms by now, then they never will.</p>
<p>Uncle Sam can put his head between his legs and kiss his ass goodbye.</p>
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		<title>By: Jake Was Here</title>
		<link>http://www.threedonia.com/archives/21241/comment-page-1#comment-72219</link>
		<dc:creator>Jake Was Here</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Mar 2010 16:55:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Land of Confusion, as animated by the crew of Spitting Image.

There was this weird kind of attitude that came into British comedy at the very tail end of the Seventies -- right as punk rock hit its peak and then began to decline, not coincidentally -- that anything that didn&#039;t involve politics or massive amounts of bile (or preferably both) &lt;i&gt;just wasn&#039;t funny, period&lt;/i&gt;. Sort of the Antonio Gramsci approach to entertainment, really. It continued going strong right up until Spitting Image went off the air; traces of it are still to be found in British comedy to this day.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Land of Confusion, as animated by the crew of Spitting Image.</p>
<p>There was this weird kind of attitude that came into British comedy at the very tail end of the Seventies &#8212; right as punk rock hit its peak and then began to decline, not coincidentally &#8212; that anything that didn&#8217;t involve politics or massive amounts of bile (or preferably both) <i>just wasn&#8217;t funny, period</i>. Sort of the Antonio Gramsci approach to entertainment, really. It continued going strong right up until Spitting Image went off the air; traces of it are still to be found in British comedy to this day.</p>
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		<title>By: blackhawk12151</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Mar 2010 16:28:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But my point is that the cultural images and celebrity obsession is much more likely to bleed over into how people make decisions in regards to political and social issues now. In the past entertainment was entertainment, politics was politics, and family was family. They were all separate parts of life. Now for a lot of people politics IS life, and when that is the case every other aspect of their lives will serve in some way to reinforce their views. 

My parents were just as celebrity obsessed as people today when they were younger. They bought the magazines and went to the movies and talked about which stars they liked, but they never discussed those stars politics. Even if they did, it wasn&#039;t something they would seriously consider when making their own decisions. Today though, in my experience there are more people willing to consider entertainment as more than just entertainment, especially if it reinforces their opinions. Back when people were buying the true hollywood magazines they didn&#039;t read them to find out who a celebrity was endorsing (some did, I&#039;m sure, but not to the extent they would today) they read them to see what movie they were doing next and/or who they were marrying/divorcing this week. Combine that with the ADD MTV-addled culture that has taken hold of most people my age (and probably a few generations before me) and it is much easier for simple-minded people to just think about something they saw in a movie rather than something they read in the Wall Street Journal. I can&#039;t tell you how many conversations I have had that go exactly like this &quot;But [insert leftist enemy here] are all [insert leftist generalization here], remember, just like that movie we saw.&quot;

I am aware that this is generalizing, maybe overly so, but it is pretty clear that today people are much more likely to allow entertainment to bleed into their politics.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But my point is that the cultural images and celebrity obsession is much more likely to bleed over into how people make decisions in regards to political and social issues now. In the past entertainment was entertainment, politics was politics, and family was family. They were all separate parts of life. Now for a lot of people politics IS life, and when that is the case every other aspect of their lives will serve in some way to reinforce their views. </p>
<p>My parents were just as celebrity obsessed as people today when they were younger. They bought the magazines and went to the movies and talked about which stars they liked, but they never discussed those stars politics. Even if they did, it wasn&#8217;t something they would seriously consider when making their own decisions. Today though, in my experience there are more people willing to consider entertainment as more than just entertainment, especially if it reinforces their opinions. Back when people were buying the true hollywood magazines they didn&#8217;t read them to find out who a celebrity was endorsing (some did, I&#8217;m sure, but not to the extent they would today) they read them to see what movie they were doing next and/or who they were marrying/divorcing this week. Combine that with the ADD MTV-addled culture that has taken hold of most people my age (and probably a few generations before me) and it is much easier for simple-minded people to just think about something they saw in a movie rather than something they read in the Wall Street Journal. I can&#8217;t tell you how many conversations I have had that go exactly like this &#8220;But [insert leftist enemy here] are all [insert leftist generalization here], remember, just like that movie we saw.&#8221;</p>
<p>I am aware that this is generalizing, maybe overly so, but it is pretty clear that today people are much more likely to allow entertainment to bleed into their politics.</p>
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		<title>By: Rufus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rufus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Mar 2010 16:22:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When you watch old movies look for scenes that show a newsstand.  When I was a kid those things were all around Chicago.  Green, wooden structures, about ten feet long, 4 feet deep and 6 feet high.  They were full of trash; celebrity gossip, crime gossip, political gossip, porn.  There ain&#039;t nothing on cable that wasn&#039;t in those newsstands.  In the old days people weren&#039;t walking around reading copies of the Constitution, Shakespeare&#039;s sonnets and Milton&#039;s &quot;Paradise Lost.&quot;

Within a few blocks of my house there was a store front that served as the meeting place for an Aryan group.  They were constantly handing out pamphlets and literature promoting their organization.

I&#039;ve said this before, but I honestly don&#039;t think people understand the significance.  Charles Lindbergh, Charles Freakin&#039; Lindbergh! went on a national speaking tour to sold out auditoriums in the 30&#039;s, promoting Hitler&#039;s cause and attacking FDR, the President of the United States.  Imagine Tiger Woods pre-scandal.  Lindbergh was ten times more revered in this country.  Charlie Chaplin was a socialist, probably a communist.  Was anyone more famous in the movies in the &#039;20&#039;s than Charlie Chaplin?  This is not new.  It&#039;s not old.  It just is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When you watch old movies look for scenes that show a newsstand.  When I was a kid those things were all around Chicago.  Green, wooden structures, about ten feet long, 4 feet deep and 6 feet high.  They were full of trash; celebrity gossip, crime gossip, political gossip, porn.  There ain&#8217;t nothing on cable that wasn&#8217;t in those newsstands.  In the old days people weren&#8217;t walking around reading copies of the Constitution, Shakespeare&#8217;s sonnets and Milton&#8217;s &#8220;Paradise Lost.&#8221;</p>
<p>Within a few blocks of my house there was a store front that served as the meeting place for an Aryan group.  They were constantly handing out pamphlets and literature promoting their organization.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve said this before, but I honestly don&#8217;t think people understand the significance.  Charles Lindbergh, Charles Freakin&#8217; Lindbergh! went on a national speaking tour to sold out auditoriums in the 30&#8242;s, promoting Hitler&#8217;s cause and attacking FDR, the President of the United States.  Imagine Tiger Woods pre-scandal.  Lindbergh was ten times more revered in this country.  Charlie Chaplin was a socialist, probably a communist.  Was anyone more famous in the movies in the &#8217;20&#8242;s than Charlie Chaplin?  This is not new.  It&#8217;s not old.  It just is.</p>
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