Well, it looks like we’ll have an actual vote this weekend. Hold on tight, people! This is going to be a bumpy ride. Kucinich flipped, which almost cerainly means our Commander in Chief convinced him this bill will lead to Universal Health Care in the U.S. Stupak is still holding out…
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Two Health Care Open Threads? I don’t know where to post my astute analyses of all things health care.
The hijacked one will be back tomorrow, so I’m told…
I think you need to see an Obamadoc.. 2?
I know what I saw…I’m not crazy
I can just see Fancy Nancy toting up the bribes she’ll have to pay.
Wow! Only $940 billion what a bargain! Especially for a country almost $13,000,000,000,000 in the hole. Great idea.
I hear some “fancy accounting” was involved in dressing up these numbers by the Obama administration, double counting tax revenues etc. It’s not the CBO’s fault they’re never right since they can only work with what they’re given.
Mark my words Threedonians. If or when this passes we will be looking at $350 billion a year by 2014 when the main provisions kick in but since they are collecting taxes beforehand to “hide the decline” it will be 2017 or so before the real damage is seen.
In total seriousness, can someone explain to me how spending $940 billion dollars reduces the deficit by $138 billion? Does the health care bill invest in stocks or something? How is this even possible?
You are right Skip it is completely impossible. They keep trying to sell us this “long term” crap which is the same bill of good they sold us with Social Security and Medicare. Both would save us money in the long run and now those two programs have us on bankruptcy’s door step.
By the way the CBO is claiming they do not know where the administration got the $940 billion from. The CBO is saying they have not made an official estimate.
I note with interest your positioning of the Health care thread alongside the “Civil War” thread. I do not doubt that the two may soon be interconnected. If this monstrosity is pushed through by Congress, it will be, IMHO, a direct attack by the Aristocracy of Washington upon both the people, and the Constitution of these United States.
Respects,
Tim,you aren’t the only one who has had that notion..
You’re right,AW1 Tim. If it “passes”, the natural progression of things will be greater medical and insurance costs, less medical service, poorer medical service, greater taxes, and the vast majority who currently have health coverage will find decreases in their policies. All that to cover illegal aliens and those who thrive on welfare.
Mighty Skip, it isn’t possible. The administration has greatly underestimated costs, or ignored them, and have greatly underestimate the effects their plan will cause. They also are not including the costs of their bribery for votes to pass this POS. Their cause/effect relationships are based on Marxist theory only. They are ignoring the market system and history where the Marxist theory has been applied and failed.
Add to that that the Aristocracy has exempted themselves from the provisions of this bill.
Attempted Murder of a Republic…prime suspects include a light skinned black man,a wizened old man from Nevada,and an incredibly ugly woman from California…
Yeah, Scott, but they can always plead Not Guilty By Reason of Insanity.
Guys Bret Baier on The Mike Gallagher show said today that he did not think Obummer had the votes. If you saw how defensive the creep was and how he sort of grew angrier and angrier….yeah…I think Bret’s correct. However CALL CALL CALL do not let up.
My favorite was Obama saying he was “not concerned with procedure”. This confirmed what we already knew about him which is our Constitution and the procedures, checks, and balances put in place to secure it our of no consequence to him. Mere annoyances for him to shirk.
You see, V, the Constitution is a living, breathing document. Which means that we can twist it however we want, unless of course we want to wiretap terrorists or something.
Some law professor. I can’t wait for someone to unseal his skool rekords so we can read his actual papers and performance.
Dubya had the hide of a rhino…didn’t give a shit what people thought,he did what he thought was right. This fruitcake we have now …whiny little punk
One of the funniest things I ever read during the Bush/Kerry contest was when the press went digging for Bush’s college transcripts, and found out that he had a higher GPA than Kerry.
Bwahahahahahahahaha…….
Please peruse this picture perfect pardigm of my predigious prognosticating.
As I have stated many, many times before these government fee schedules, be it Medicare or Medicaid, are so low that providers cannot continue accepting them. Now Obama’s new plan looks to dramatically expand the number of people qualifying and receiving Medicaid which will further stress provider’s pocketbooks especially since the $500 billion in Medicare cuts involve cutting the fee schedule further.
Eventually no one will accept Medicare or Medicaid except hospital ERs, this will lead to massive over crowding in hospitals and the government stepping in and forcing private physicians to accept Medicare and Medicaid. Not to mention the inevitable “doctor bailout”.
Very typical…government attempting to solve a problem with bigger government; said problem being the end result of government meddling in the first place!
“Please peruse this picture perfect pardigm of my predigious prognosticating.”
And Veruckt, please watch your language!
Veruckt, why do you hate the elderly?
In Ann Coulter’s new column, she lays out a healthcare plan that I, for one, would be happy to vote for. I wish she had gone into greater detail and covered things like tort reform, but it’s still a great read:
http://townhall.com/columnists/AnnCoulter/2010/03/17/my_healthcare_plan
Shame on Ann Coulter..Harry Reid and Viagra in the same sentence…