Monday Open Thread

Happy 81st Birthday to Gavin MacLeod (pictured here from Kelly’s Heroes)

49 comments to Monday Open Thread

  • Dr.Schplatt

    Awards ceremonies like the one yesterday always crack me up. Because in the case of the winner it is always

    A. I’ve never heard of it.

    B. I’ve heard of it but it sounded boring so I didn’t see it.

    C. I saw it and thought it was kind of “meh”.

    D. I love the movie and therefore it won’t win anything.

  • Schplatt! hilarious. And sadly accurate.

  • Scott M.

    Happy birthday to one of my favorite actors,Charles Durning.Never received an Oscar,but in WW2 he received a Silver Star and 3 Purple Hearts.

  • Scott M.

    Damn,you mean I missed the Oscars?YIPPEE!

  • Scott M.

    Since being recognized on Threedonia is such a great honor,I’d like to recognize a local legend:Jack Cristal,the radio voice of the Mississippi State Bulldogs,who retired after the MSU-Tennessee game the other night.he was born and raised in Memphis in 1926,the son of Jewish emigrants from Tsarist Russia.In 1953,he took the job of broadcasting Bulldog football games,and did it for 58(!)seasons(my dad started at MSU in 1954).He only started doing basketball in 1957,the year before I was born.Alas,Jack going to have to start dialysis for his one remaining kidney.Damn sure gonna miss that gravelly voice on Saturday nights come fall….oh,by the way,the Bullies beat Tennessee 70-69.

  • “Hey, Captain Stubing, put on your hat. You’re blinding me with your head!”

  • Scott M.

    Headline of the Day:”EU Votes Sanctions Against Libya”…yeah,boy,those wet noodle lashings can really smart.

  • -fritz-

    Adult Swim, last night had a statement on their between show blurbs, that said that at 8 p.m. the networks should have listed on the screen, who the winners were, all the people who were to attend should go have a private party somewhere, and the rest of us would not have had to watch all the boring, egocentric ramblings from the winners. Everyone would have had a more wonderful evening.

  • Tink in Cali

    I saw over the weekend that Kathy Griffin is dating the Old Spice Guy. I shouldn’t think he would be that desperate and hard up. I guess it is a casual, open type of thing.

    Well, fellas – any other takers?

  • Scott M.

    Spot on,Rufus.The exact weapons that MooMoo has been massacring his people with.Dem Euros just abhor violence,but are just thrilled to sell weapons to every black and brown tinhorn tyrant around the world.They hand out the ammo as fast as they hand out peace prizes.

  • Scott M.

    Better start calling him the Old STD Man…

  • Stephanie

    That picture is from Kelly’s Heroes…..”ODDBALL, the coupling is busted. Its broke!” “Whats with the negative waves Moriarity!”

  • Mighty Skip

    Another disturbing trend are the police taking sides on political issues:

    Add on top of it the association with and it sends chills down my spine. I had seen some of this first hand when SEIU protesters came up to near where I live in Maryland to “protest” a Bank of America president. They had a police escort from DC and were joined in by the locals when they got here. Incidently, the man in question wasn’t home, only his 14 year old son who felt threatened but who was he supposed to call? The police were already there but were doing nothing to stop the SEIU thugs from pounding on the door so he called his father (the BoA president) who came to rescue him and who braved the crowd while the police looked on.

    Noticed this while browsing instapundit who notes:

    YOU CAN SEE WHY TEA PARTY PROTESTERS WORRY THE COPS MIGHT TAKE SIDES: L.A. Police Union Urges Members to ‘Stand in Solidarity’ with SEIU and MoveOn.Org. The folks at BoingBoing seem to like it that the Wisconsin cops are siding with protesters, but where’s the reason for trust from those who feel otherwise? Do we want police to take sides in political disputes?

    Apparently some do. This is why (1) you should always bring a camera; and (2) public employee unions should be illegal. If union protesters turn violent — as they increasingly have — can you trust pro-union police to intervene?

    • even more reason for the 2d Amendment… as a means of protection.

    • Daniel Crandall

      I’ve done a brief internet search on the following, but have found nothing conclusive to support my thesis, but that’s not going to prevent me putting it out there. And if someone knows labor-management history better than I, and can approach the subject objectively, I look forward to having what pop-culture notions fill my head corrected.

      It seems to me that during the ‘Golden Years’ of private industry unionization, management, in order to bust up a strike and make it possible to bring in replacement workers would simply call the cops, who would wade in, bust a few heads, stuff the ‘commies’ in paddy wagons (if you’re Irish and that term offends you … too bad), and it was back to work.

      In other words, I have this popular notion that the cops used to be on the side of business when it comes to unions, and that was evil – fascism, pure and simple.

      Now that taxpayers are saddled with supporting public sector unions, and the unionized cops are standing with public sector union thugs, as those thugs invade public spaces, violate private property, and physically assault those who oppose them.

      And I’m supposed to believe that what we have today is “Progressive” and good, when it looks to me like the mirror of image of the fascism poor union workers faced in the 30s and 40s.

      To quote a line from one of a favorite Brad Paisley song ‘Too Country‘, “I just don’t understand.”

      • Rufus


        I used to be very conversant on this history, having studied it in College, but it’s been decades since I’ve thought much about it, so I am very rusty on the subject.

        I don’t think things were as cut and dry as your theory, vis a vis the police and strikes. More than a few corporate moguls hired their own “Pinkerton” security types to do strike busting and the results were not always egalitarian. Also, some cops were on the payroll of big business. I think that was the case in Chicago’s “Pullman District.”

        Regardless of the role of police in strike busting in the ’20s and ’30s I think comparisons between Labor Union movements then and today are difficult. Most employers did not provide sick days, vacations, a 5 day work week, 8 hour workday, pensions, etc. Working conditions were often very harsh. Some employers were fair. Some were vile. It is understandable that there was a labor movement to organize and fight for some, basic workers’ “rights.” At the same time Communism and Socialism were sweeping the world. Some attempts at unionization were certainly coordinated by foreign led Communist and Socialist agents with an agenda of weaking the U.S., but there was also a lot of well-intentioned, organic activity within the U.S. labor force.

        As I’ve written before, in the U.S. today unions are probably redundant at best, and harmful at worst. Labor laws, OSHA regulations, EEOC laws and whistleblower protections guarantee all essential aspects of labor (and maybe too many!). The law is on the side of the worker. Those laws did not exist at the turn of the prior century. However, even if one thinks Unions are unnecessary but harmless I don’t see how anyone can argue in favor of public sector unions. There needs to be a counter balance to labor. In the private sector that is ownership and/or management. If a Union makes contract requests that are unsustainable in the market the market will eventually auto (no pun intended) correct. This is what we are seeing in the U.S. auto industry today.

        But there is no counterweight to public sector unions. The unions negotiate with politicians and the politicians have access to taxpayer money to satisfy union demands. And, to round out the circle, Union dues are used to fund political campaigns. Both sides are on the same side and neither side uses its own resources to meet concessions. It’s like asking the guy who runs the local video game store to meet with your teen-aged son to determine his allowance. The higher the amount they decide the more video games your son will buy and the more revenue the store owner will get to keep his business afloat. Who pays the tab? You do.

        If private sector unions become non-viable the penduluum will swing. Most of the southern states in the U.S. are right to work states and more and more companies are relocating there. And then there is the world stage. But public sector unions? They are a dangerous, dangerous variant. Wisconsin is a near perfect microcosm of what will happen in this nation if this foolishness is allowed to continue.

      • Floyd

        It precedes official communism and fascism was still an unrealized byproduct of the French Revolution…. the Haymarket Bombing was in the 1880s… where “anarchists” bombed police trying to break up a labor strike. The Molly Maguires (terrorists or heroes depending on who you ask) were active in the 1870s. Communism and the reds of the early 20th century and the American labor movement (and the Grange, Populism, etc.) and Progressivism were matches made in hell.

        A lot of cops and fire… being Irish and coming from coal fields or sons of applied labor ideas to local government. For that read Asbury’s The Gangs of New York for a taste (not a scientific history but full of lurid details and largely true if not always accurate in the details). Calvin Coolidge rode his breaking up of the 1919 Boston police strike to the VP’s office and eventually POTUS.

        • Floyd

          I should also add that the Church added to this mess by abandoning it’s Great Commission for the social gospel.

        • Rufus

          To continue on the tangent, let’s not forget who started World War I? Anarchists. I know it sounds ridiculous, like “KAOS” on the “Get Smart” TV series, but there actually are anarchists in the world and they’ve done some real damage. It’s hard to take them very seriously because they are never a significant percentage of the populous of any society, but power abhorrs a vacuum and it doesn’t take a lot of people to create chaos and confusion. It’s interesting how the ancient Greeks viewed the concepts of chaos and order, and in how many religions those concepts appear. The beginning of Genesis is an account of God creating order out of chaos, “darkness, without form…”

          The NAZIs were a radical minority few in Germany took seriously (or even knew of) in the early 1930s, but they capitalized on chaos and offered a form of order. I have written before that I think a lack of a system, a lack of order, is what people fear most in government. That’s how despots like Kim Jong Il, Qaddafi, Hussein, etc. stay in power. Most people fear chaos even more than they detest amoral behavior.

          I suppose, at the end of the day, it’s survival instinct. If a leader is evil but systematic in his evil at least you can learn the system, keep your nose clean and live. But chaos? Nobody knows what will happen from one minute to the next. The French quickly embraced an Emperor when subject to the chaos of the Revolution. The Germans embraced Hitler. The North Koreans embraced Kim Jong Il’s old man. The Cubans embraced Castro. The Iraqi’s, Hussein. Look at Roman history. The Romans hated the unpredictable rulers; Caligula, Nero, and revered the orderly ones; Caesar, Antony. Death tolls didn’t matter. Ethics didn’t matter. It’s order vs. chaos.

          Power abhorrs a vacuum. Anarchists create chaos which leads to a vacuum.

  • Dr.Schplatt

    I spent my whole day going over this with my students F=9/5C+32

    I think I’m going to have a stroke eventually…this really isn’t a hard formula!!!!

    • Mighty Skip

      I have to say, I’ve got my problems with the French but take a unit and then just measure by multiples or divides of ten… pretty smooth.

      • Rufus

        Do you know they also tried to decimalize the calendar and the hours in a day? I’m actually a proponent of 10, 36 day months with 5 (6 in leap years) days outside stuck between Christmas and New Years. 10 day weeks with 3 day weekends.

        We ought to have a 10 hour day of 100 minutes, consisting of 100 seconds. It would make things a whole lot easier. The average work day would be 3 hours and 33 minutes! Thanks for nothing, Babylonians.

    • -fritz-

      Just make sure you stay away from N4P6K4 also containing 86% dead vegetation. It’s the chemical formula for chickensh*t!

      I took algebra for two years, plane and solid geometry, and a whole lot of math in general, and I have no clue regarding your formula, Dr.

      • Dr.Schplatt

        It’s how to convert Celsius to Fahrenheit.

        We were not having trouble so much with the formula itself, it’s just getting really old trying to remind the students of their order of operations. I had the same kid 3 times today forget that multiplication has to come first. Sigh…and to think I disagree with the rejects in Wisconsin! What’s wrong with me!

    • Rufus

      No, it’s not. I assume you showed them how to derive it? Most everyone likely knows the temperatures water freezes and boils at in both systems. If you have those four points you can easily build the equation from scratch.

      I’ve written this before, but I find a bit of history often helps kids get their brains around math. Build a little story around why someone needed to “discover” a formula, then ask them how they would go about it. Turn it into a mystery. I think some kids who have trouble memorizing numbers or formulae can remember stories more easily. If they know the story they can intuit the equation on their own.

      Also, I think math seems like “magic” to some kids. They aren’t facile with numbers so it all just seems like magic; if you follow the prescribed steps properly “poof” a correct result. They are more like priests or priestesses trying to perform an incantation. If you can show them it’s actually simple, basic, everyday stuff it lowers their fear of the subject. I remember once, in College, a friend who was an art major was studying for an Astronomy test and had asked me to help. She was trying to memorize the speed of the Earth’s rotation on its axis. For a prior test she had already memorized the Earth’s diameter. I asked her if she knew how many hours there were in a day? She said, “Sure. 24.” “Then,” I replied, “you have all you need to calculate the Earth’s rotational speed at the equator. It’s intuitive!” She stared at me like I had three heads and said, “I don’t think the word ‘intuitive’ means the same thing to you as it does to me.” She was looking at the Earth’s rotational speed at the equator like some mystical number, rather than the result of very real things happening in a very natural world that she already understood.

      I see this most often when helping my kids on word problems. If they don’t instantly understand the problem they shut off their brains. When I see this happen I’ll ask, “What do you know? Start writing down what you understand from the problem.” The simple act of transcribing the words into simple formulae often gets their brains in the right frame of mind to solve the problem. If not, I’ll ask them to look at what they wrote and try to relate it to what the problem is asking. Don’t get hung up on what you do not know, focus on what you do know.

  • Daniel Crandall

    So are any Threedonian’s going to pick up Andrew Breitbart’s new book Righteous Indignation: Why I’m the Greatest Thing since the French Tickler …. oh wait, that’s not the subtitle. How does it go? Excuse Me While I Stroke My Tremendous Ego … oh, forget it …

  • I’m looking for a copy which just has the awesome Righteous Indignation title (sincerely love the use of red with the first and last two syllables), minus the subtitle and less-than-flattering picture of the author. Gotta be one available from some back alley dealer, right?

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