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NBCSports Channel had a great two hour townhall meeting hosted by Bob Costas (part of a show called “Costas Tonight”) on the state of the NFL. They talked a lot about concussions and rule changes, etc. Near the end the NBC Football crew took the stage and the subject of Peyton Manning came up. Given all they had talked about I thought Rodney Harrison (former safety with the Chargers and Patriots) had an interesting — and touching — perspective on whether or not Peyton Manning should come back to play. Parts of the show are here and the show is on again Saturday night at 5 and 8 PM EST on NBCSports Channel.

7 comments to Manning Up

  • Touching indeed from Harrison, and especially liked his acknowledgment it’s personal choices and risks these guys voluntarily make. Nice jab at Costas, too (and liked his response as well).

    Then there’s King Douche Collinsworth. When will I learn to just press stop or mute when his smarmy face appears? Yo, Chrissy, it’s not a generational thing to serve in the military and I honestly hope and will pray one or both of your kids eventually want to join one of the Armed Forces, be one of the .45%. That’s right, Chrissy, don’t think I forgot your interview of Kobe during the last Olympics and you tried to make him feel ashamed of wearing the red, white and blue and representing the country which has made possible so much in your life. Ass.

  • Dr. Schplatt

    Yeah I was ok until Collinworthless started talking. He’s spewing a bunch of BS too. I love sports as much as they next guy, but playing football doesn’t teach you jack squat. Having good parents, a decent family and perhaps for a smaller percentage a coach who is a man of high character will teach you something.

    There’s plenty of jerks who don’t learn a thing playing sports.

    • Schplatt… you must haven’t played football or had a shitty coach, because that is plain ignorant, bordering on stupid — and I know you’re not stupid.

      And if parents are the sole teachers of good things you wasted a nice chunk of your life trying to become and then to be a teacher of children. I learned more in football than I did in school about hard work, discipline, etc. It was a tool my parents (by encouraging and letting me play) used to help teach those things.

      • Rufus

        I can’t begin to imagine how many times, when the real world hit me upside the face, hard! (work, money, marriage, raising kids…) I automatically thought back to something I learned while busting my hump in High School football or track and that memory gave me the knowledge and/or fortitude to tackle the challenge I was facing.

        I don’t think it’s an exaggeration to state that participating in sports in High School had more impact on the man I have become than any other single thing in my life during those four years.

      • Dr. Schplatt

        My point is this, a majority of the time, you go into football, baseball, soccer, the military, or pretty much anything as a butthole with nothing but the sport, you will leave it as a butthole. Sports are simply a tool to build upon seeds that have already been sewn. Those seeds can be good character or those seeds will be bad character. I don’t believe sports in an of themselves teach new character a majority of the time, but I do believe they can be a great for building on character.

        All you have to do is visit your normal university talk to most of the players. You’ll find out the ones with outstanding character 90% of the time had those seeds planted and then sports helped them grow. 90% of the trouble makers (what % of the NFL gets arrested every year?) on sports teams aren’t getting much from the sport besides an excuse to not be on the street breaking the law.

        So, was I trained in things like hard work, responsibility, and fair play when I played football, soccer and hockey? Sure. If I hadn’t had parents to taught me the importance of those things, would I have learned them brand new from sports? No, I don’t honestly think I would have.

        I’m a firm believer that a majority of the time home is where good character starts and places outside the home simply work with what’s there.

  • I think football (to make it an institution for a moment here) serves a similar purpose military service did for my granddad’s generation. We were never going to have 15 million men under arms like in WW2 and done right… football coaches instill many of the same values. Of course it’s not the same as military service, but most boys couldn’t serve in the military today even if they desired to given budget constraints, logistics, etc. — and it takes boys the military wouldn’t touch with a 10-foot pole and has quite a bit of success in turning many of them around (or setting them right).

    T.O. is the football version of Marines pissing on dead soldiers… he’s the exception to the rule… most football players learn a lot about life.

    Funny about Collinsworth… he suffers from GW Bush smirkitis I think because he, like Costas, is one of the smartest guys on TV and is very often right in his analysis, it just comes off different because of that voice and the expression.

    And I think the same for most if not all sports… more physical courage in football or hockey perhaps (of course facing the high heat in the batter’s box is not easy task either), but a lot of good values nonetheless — if done right and in proper context, etc.

    • Dr. Schplatt

      I would wonder just how much the military teaches that’s new and how much they simply work with what is there. I’ve known people who have joined the military and have come out great people but I’ve also known people who came out of the military has first class jerks. The difference is, the jerks were already jerks when they went in and simply came out more arrogant than before. The people I know who came out great were already decent people to begin with.

      I don’t say these things as a put down to the military, I’m simply considering the psychology behind it all. In Education a good teacher doesn’t try to create new goodness in a child because it simply isn’t possible without support outside of school. A good teacher tries to find what’s already inside and help that to grow.

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