Jose Ferrer’s tour de force scene in The Caine Mutiny
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In before the guy who says ‘First!’
Coughing fit woke me up out of a restless sleep. So while I wait for the sinuses to drain…
I picked The Caine Mutiny as the book for my term paper in Advanced English 11 back in high skrewl. Loved the book — hated doing the paper, as I couldn’t find enough reference material in the school library, and was too lazy to go to the pubic library to get more (besides, you never know who’s lurking between the shelves…), so I didn’t do so well on my paper. Besides, I was of the opinion at the time that no one should really care what a 16yr-old kid thought of literature. The older I get, the more I believe that.
The movie is a pretty good adaptation of the book. That reminds me — this is another one I need to upgrade from the video-lithic era.
Well, goozer, I, for one, want to know what a 16 year old kid thinks of literature. Not because I would take, for one minute, what he thinks as a work’s meaning. No. I want to know whether or not he understands what he’s reading. Of course, I’m old fashioned enough to believe that there are correct and incorrect interpretations of literature. If you read The Caine Mutiny at 16 and told me it was about a dude who really liked strawberries and played with marbles I’d be very concerned.
What can I say? I was an arrogant, snot-nosed punk back then.
Now I’m just snot-nosed…
I was, of course, half-kidding — while I didn’t think I had much to offer in the way of illumination, I did (and do) agree with your concerns about how to look beyond the words on the page to discover what is there in the text. Such as the fact that they were ball bearings, not marbles. But that, of course, would be one of the reasons for your concern.
English teachers have not only to be familiar with the literature itself but with these. Good on you for taking your lumps instead of cheating. Right? And now these years later, that you read the book is a value to be gleaned.
I taught before the internet existed. It provides unlimited resources, but I imagine the burden to ensure against plagiarism is really tough on teachers now.
And FTR, I have spent many woman hours in libraries, but I never lurked between the shelves. I was too busy “meeting” exotic, urbane
menpeople at the “checkout” counter.For some reason your use of the term urbane bothers me almost as much as if you’d used metrosexual instead!
That scene really makes the film. Because I think most viewers at that point see things only from the defendants point of view, and it opens their eyes to what their “duty” should have been…awesome, and the reason this film is shown in military academies to this day.
THIRD!
Well, gee, boys, glad I showed up for the middle of the night party. Strawberries all around.
Working late, Tink?
And I recall thinking of this while seated in front of the Department psychologist during my background investigation for police job. I was asked if i has ever worked for/been supervised by anyone who I thought was not as smart or capable as I (Oh, brother. Let me tell ya). “And how did you handle that?” he asked.
I answered truthfully and I passed the test. Local law enforcement agencies are paramilitary organizations, after all.
And on theme for this week, Floyd: Billy Budd – Herman Melville. Love it.
that’s something we’ve worked hard at teaching our oldest, and I hope to teach the rest. It was pretty easy because he really is smarter than his mama, but I’m the one in charge. I had to learn it the hard way, after working for one of the craziest (and fattest) women I’ve ever known. Proper submission to authority is key to being a good leader. I don’t think people get that. And it’s one reason I struggle with submission to the current President.
Well said, Tex-sis. It’s a virtuous art.
“… if i has ever …”
Well, er, uh, that’s not exactly how the question was phrased. [What's wrong with me?]
If you were working in Texas, it very well may have been, and it wouldn’t have necessarily indicated a lack of education.
Yep. And I’m fixin’ to move back there, maybe.
Are Leftists stupid or just bat-sh*t crazy?
Take this picture for example.
Leftists in America push for greater gun controls in the wake of the tragic Newtown massacre. They are so afraid of guns in the hands of Americans that even when an American child makes a gun-like gesture and says “Pow, pow” that child is suspended from school.
But those same Leftists side with Palestinians who smile and cheer as their children parade around with, not just toys but, real guns while screaming for the death of Jews in Israel.
Maybe they’re neither stupid or insane. Maybe they are just overly influenced by the Evil One.
Sadly, Daniel, I fear it’s a little bit of everything insidious with the Dems.
Maybe they’re neither stupid or insane. Maybe they are just overly influenced by the Evil One.
Both could fit, quite well! Delusional perhaps?
The angels are waiting for ya,Hugo
http://www.sfgate.com/news/slideshow/President-Hugo-Chavez-of-Venezuela-54690.php
Talked to my friend Florangel in Caracas last night.He’s not coming back.Flor is a good conservative and a better Christian…she still prays for him.
I used to work with a Venezuelan immigrant. His car had a bumpersticker that said, “Chavez sucks!” I kid you not.
Sucking wind now….guess Habana General didn’t cut the mustard.
Peeps,do me a favor.Name a book that you love that was turned in to dreadful film.My case it was “Bonfire of the Vanities”.(I thought of this watching the trailer for “The Great Gatsby”.Personally I don’t think Gatsby is a great book,but come on,that looks horrible.)
2001: A Space Odyssey. Arthur C. Clarke’s book: Two thumbs up. Stanley Kubrick’s film: a mind-numbingly boring mess.
Though my suggestion may not exactly qualify since the book & film were developed simultaneously.
True that. I actually almost liked “2010″, but “2001″ could only be enjoyed by a crackhead!
I am most certainly not a crackhead!
Oops! Sorry if I off-ended you!
Comic book technically, but Tank Girl sucked, despite a rockin’ soundtrack.
[one more comment to a Scott M. visit than he affords my posts.
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Don’t forget how frigging awesome Lori Petty was as Tank Girl. But yeah, the movie was a mind-numbing mess.
“The Long Ships,” by Frans Gunnar Bengtsson: http://www.amazon.com/Long-Ships-Review-Books-Classics/dp/1590173465/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1357318761&sr=1-1&keywords=the+long+ships
Considered by many (who, of course, haven’t read my books) the greatest Viking novel ever. It was made into a crappy movie with Richard Widmark and Russ Tamblyn running around in leather shorts. There have been recent rumors of a plan by Swedish television to do a proper job, as both a movie and a mini-series. Hope it works out.
I was disappointed in The Children of Men. The director completely missed the point of P.D. James’ book.
Mystic River didn’t disappoint me. shawn Penn’s a sicko, but he can act.
(S)hawn.
Why didn’t I think of this the first time? It’s so obvious – the 1978 version of The Lord of the Rings. I hope there’s a special place in Mordor waiting for Ralph Bakshi for creating this travesty.
Peter Jackson isn’t getting a lot of ‘Atta’boys’ for making three films out of a single book, but that has to be better than squishing three amazing literary works into one animated bit of trash.
Politely agree to disagree. Sure, it was technically a mash-up of the three books, but it still inspired 8-year-old me to seek out The Hobbit and the three LOTR books.
Operative phrase: “Mash-up”
Not quite a Shire smash, but I still stand behind Bakshi’s take.
Starship Troopers. Any resemblance between the book and the movie is purely coincidental. The movie totally misses the point of the book, in fact almost seems to parody it.
Hollywood used to chew up the Bible,but they came up with wildly entertaining films.
Dune. David Lynch got the spectacle right (with big assists from H.R. Geiger and the Mexican desert), but the film made absolutely no sense. Herbert’s book is really just a straightforward revenge story (with some Messiah metaphors) in a sci-fi setting. That would have worked fine on film, but Lynch tried to cram in every subplot and supporting character from the book, even if they added nothing to the story, without bothering to explain to the audience what any of it meant.
And the miniseries had the exact opposite problem: it was a more streamlined and coherent story, but there was nothing compelling about it. The writing and acting were dull and superficial, and the special effects looked cheap. Sometimes Hollywood just needs to learn when to let a book go.
I assume all the live action Dr. Seuss movies his greedy second wife green-lit suck. I have to assume because I refuse to watch any.
That adorable purple blob was I!
Only thing my mom reads aside from the paper is Jane Austen,so she is always happy with the movies(last week it was “Emma”).
The Andromeda Strain (recent TV movie version) — I think this is what really killed Michael Crichton.
Well…here we go!
http://news.yahoo.com/nurses-fired-refusing-flu-shot-224637902–abc-news-health.html
Sorry, but I’m with the hospital on this one. My job requires I work within the school’s medical center and I am required to have a flu vaccine. Before having this job, I’ve steadfastly refused the vaccination simply because I wasn’t in the high risk pool for influenza. But now that I have a job that puts me on contact with extremely sick individuals it is no longer about my health. It’s about the health of the patients I might come in contact with on a day-to-day basis, and this nurse should know that.
This – “This is my body. I have a right to refuse the flu vaccine,” Hoover, 61, told ABCNews.com. “For 21 years, I have religiously not taken the flu vaccine, and now you’re telling me that I believe in it.” – tells me more about this arrogant nurse than about any valid reason for not getting vaccinated. And if she’s going to maintain her stubborn stance, fine. My response would be have a nice day, you’re no longer employed here.
Flu vaccines are common for anyone working in or around the healthcare industry.
Point made. I just have a problem with anyone forcing something on a person who is technically autonomous in the truest sense. I think they should allow her to take a desk job for the run of the flu, however, instead of outright firing her.
Same here.
If she was a private individual working somewhere else, it’d be different, but she is working at a Hospital.
Bill O’Brien is sticking with the Lions
http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/8811626/bill-obrien-remaining-penn-state-nittany-lions-coach
Rare act of class in college football.
Yup, even if BoB’s interview with the Browns gave him and his agent better leverage on coach’s buyout price.
Think Patrino would have stayed?
I think those kids are gong to be gangbusters next season,got something to prove to those NCAA asshats.
Only with the right cheerleader/grad assistant Scott.
Catch Emmert in bed with a cheerleader,I’d love that.
Zig’s working on that. Nah, just kidding. I am.
Mr. Cruz goes to Washington
http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2013/01/senator-ted-cruz.php
Wish him the best.
Senator Barney Frank?
http://www.boston.com/politicalintelligence/2013/01/04/barney-frank-says-would-like-interim-senator-conclude-fiscal-cliff-fights/uag4xpU3rDq2y2wsgOLB4I/story.html
You can count me in,if only because he would be a vote against UpChuck Hagel for Secretary of Defense.That creature at the Pentagon would be a disater for our national security.Frank opposes him for the wrong reasons,but opposition is all that matters.
Monster
http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/special-editorial-there-s-no-case-hagel_693692.html
Hagel is unfit for this office,period,and the Senate better damn well do its duty.
Senators have spines of wet spaghetti. They’ll all march lock-step to support their “good friend” Chuck ‘nothing-to–worry-about-from-Iran’ Hagel.
Awesome video alert: Dawn of the Debt. The fiscal cliff imagined as the zombie apocalypse. With apologies to George Romero (and Joss Whedon).
Forgetting someone?
Thought Outlaw would appreciate this bit o’ news from WB’s weekly “Company Headlines” email:
Turbo kid sighting during the Cotton Bowl….my 15 yo thinks it’s hilarious.
YES!