Isn’t It Ironic?

The First Lady presented the Oscar for best motion picture of the year to a film about the rescue of U.S. personnel who worked at an embassy, that was under siege.

Alanis Morissette wept.

45 comments to Isn’t It Ironic?

  • Texacalirose

    Yep. Frankenweinstein arranged it, betting that his Lincoln was in the bag. It was gonna be a historic moment. The first black FLOTUS announcing the 13th Amendment chronicle to be the big winner.


  • Scott M.

    Thank you for that one,Dan…good call.

  • Dr. Schplatt

    Just so that Les Miserables garbage didn’t win anything. That movie was painful and embarrassing.

  • Dr. Schplatt

    Did Wreck it Ralph win anything? That movie was awesome.

  • So you kind of just reworded my comment from the Oscars thread, but ha! 😉

  • -fritz-

    Things like this gesture by the FLOTUS are best done with 2 faces!

  • Scott M.

    A beautiful woman,great dress…admit it.

  • “Irony can be pretty ironic sometimes.” :-)

  • Rufus

    You know, if Nancy Reagan would have done this when Ron was President the Left would have been up in arms! I know, it’s a straw man because there is NO WAY Nancy would have been allowed anywhere near that stage, even though her and Ron were film stars and Ron was the President of SAG.

    The good news is the Left is perpetually bent on over reaching to the point that all but the most ardent Kool-Aid drinkers begin to see the hubris and hypocrisy.

    • I hate to be “that guy,” but it looks like Reagan was invited to tape an intro for the Oscars in 1981:

      I don’t know if it ended up happening (this was two years before I was born).

      And Laura Bush appeared in a montage:,0,5439363.story

      • Tink in Cali

        You weren’t born until ’83? Egad, you’re a pup! :)

        • Texacalirose

          Poor guy didn’t even get to vote for Reagan. :(

          • Tink –

            Yes, a pup who, for economic reasons, had to move back in with his folks. Sadly, all my friends are in the same boat.

            Texacalirose –

            I’m a proud Independent so it’s possible I wouldn’t have voted for him anyway… I couldn’t say one way or another. 😉

            • Rufus

              As a father with kids fast approaching (hopefully) “leave the nest age” I’m very interested in this topic. My wife and I have been fortunate to provide educational and developmental opportunities for our kids that we did not have, and, probably not coincidentally, our circle of friends are mostly similar; adults from blue collar or modest backgrounds who worked really hard in College and after and climbed a rung or three above their parents on the socio-economic ladder.

              Most of us expect our kids to work hard and demand a lot from them. However, as our kids get into their teens and twenties I’m noticing a pattern of some of the “kids” getting stalled; dropping out of College, moving home, suffering from a lack of direction and self-doubt. I’m trying to make sense out of it.

              I sometimes wonder if it isn’t harder for our kids because they have been raised with a sense of security we did not have. Growing up I never had any illusions my folks could provide for me long-term. It was very apparent from a young age that I would have to figure out how to get what I wanted, and most all my peers were in similar circumstances. Did that make it easier to have the drive to succeed economically?

              But then I simply look at the economics of what it takes to live independently today. The first time I really lived “on my own” after College graduation my rent was $150/month (I had a roommate) and I bought a working, used car for $900. I probably spent around $100/month on groceries (ignoring a few trips to Taco Bell and a lot of beer). I just did the math and my salary worked out to a little under $7/hour, which was probably about double minimum wage at the time. So, in 1985 you could live on your own if you earned $7/hour. I guess, in 2013, that translates to a job making about $25k/year. Can you live on that? I just did some quick math with a cheap, cheap car payment, cheap apartment, groceries, gas, cell phone, utilities… I don’t think it’s possible. I’m looking at the numbers and it looks like my rockbottom, subsistence living expenses were about 1/4th of what they would be today, but rockbottom, subsistence income is only about double what it was back then.

              So maybe it is economics. But I also think there is a change in attitude. There were a few times in my post-College life where I did not have a job but I did not move in with my parents. I flopped on friends’ apartment floors and paid them back rent when I landed something. And, I’m pretty sure if I had a situation where I couldn’t get on my feet in a month, or two, I would have walked to the local recruiter’s office and signed up for the service.

              And, I’m not sure that’s good. Sometimes I was so driven to be independent that I wasted time in dead-end opportunities.

              I guess I don’t know. I don’t think there’s a right or wrong here, but it does seem like something has changed for young adults. I’ve also been reading a lot about how society treats boys and young men, especially in school. That is certainly very different from how I was raised/educated.

              Also, College is stupid/crazy expensive and many young adults have debt that we never had in the 80s. Credit card companies wouldn’t even issue you a card until you had a full time job!

              • Rufus –

                I can only speak for myself but I graduated high school in 2001, and went away to college that fall. I didn’t get into my chosen program so I moved back home and finished up my AA at the local community college. I also had a full-time job during this time.

                Eight months after I got my AA, I went away to another school and got an AS. I later moved to LA (this should tell you what my degree was in) but I moved back when I realized I wasn’t going anywhere, though to this day I realize moving back was a BIG MISTAKE!!!!

                I toiled here and there for a while. I lived in Orlando (and worked), lived in Jersey City just across the river from Manhattan (and worked). I want to stress that I’ve been working pretty much non-stop for years. I even spent two months in Texas as a test subject for NASA. Really!!

                But I decided to move back home one last time to get my Bachelor’s Degree. I’m working a part-time job and looking for another one. It’s simply too much money to get a place of my own. And all my close friends live with their parents. Even a married couple who just had a kid had to move in with the in-laws.

                I can safely say that I’m not entitled and I don’t feel anyone owes me anything. I’d like to be the first person among my friends to move back OUT but it’ll be a while. :-)

                • Rufus

                  Best of luck to you, ScottDS!

                  As I wrote, breaking down the economics there is no question it is tougher today than when I was young. It’s maybe a silly example, but let’s look at something like owning a car. When I was your age air bags were not required, anti-lock brakes, annual pollution check-ups… My little, 11 year old, $900 car was decent, and I could work on it myself. Car ownership has gotten a lot more complex and expensive. When I was working in Texas my company paid for a monthly bus pass. It cost me nothing to get to and from work. Even when I had an apartment in College it was affordable with a part time job earning minimum wage (with a lot of roommates).

                  And the squeeze on my friends with no College has been much worse. Most of my High School classmates went right into the workforce as machinists, construction, mechanics… Back then one could buy a home, have a car, eat… on the wages made in those fields, but the wages have not kept pace with inflation. My friends who worked in grocery stores got medical and dental insurance!

            • Since you were alive back then this would be impossible for you to know, but only die hard Democrats and a few others would have voted for Carter after the way he mucked things up…he was horrible.

              Reagan 1980 was the first presidential election I voted in…stood in line that day in my old elementary school in Waco, TX.

            • Texacalirose

              I love independent men who live with their parents!! 😉

              • Texacalirose

                Seriously, ScottDS, you sound like you’re going to be fine. I worked my a$$ off to ensure my two Suns got their degrees and graduated debt free. They have managed to stay employed and out of my “basement,” but sometimes I wish they’d move back. It is not so stigmatic these days. And I worked with an old retired police detective (first generation Italian) who told me that he lived with his parents in SF till he married … at 30! Hang in! You’re gonna be great!

      • Rufus


        Thanks for the info. As I was writing it I was thinking it would have been kind-of odd if SAG didn’t acknowledge the Reagans in some way. I imagine, also, that Ron and Nancy would have been welcome as guests as former SAG members, but it was likely the Reagans who chose to stay away from the ceremony.

        I don’t remember President Reagan doing the opening, but maybe he did.

        • Rufus –

          Reagan was also in the In Memoriam segment in (I assume) 2005 and if I recall, there was even applause. :-)

          Ah, here it is:

          (I only remember that year in particular because I’m a big film score geek and both Jerry Goldsmith and Elmer Bernstein passed away, within a couple months of each other.)

        • Loyal Goatherd

          Hey Ru, my parents had a pretty good system set up to get their three boys out. When I turned 18 my mother came to me with my birthday card. There wasn’t any money in it. When I asked her about it, she told me she had cooked for me, cleaned for me, did my laundry, housed me and clothed me for 18 years and as my oldest brother is 10 years older than me, that was 28 years. 28 years was her duty to us, we in turn, now had a duty to her. Get out and take care of yourselves, or pay her for her help. My rent was $10 that month and went up $10 a month thereafter, until I left. The same was true for my two other brothers. We all stayed about three years, after that it made sense to move out. And forking over $425 a month for a crap ball apartment and still having to cook and clean and shop on top of that gave each of us a great appreciation of what Mom was showing us. Her services were underpriced even if we stayed with her 10 years (that would be $1200 a month, and worth every penny).

          My mom was cut from this same cloth (Outlaw don’t even go there, you won’t like it)

          • Rufus

            Loyal Goatherd,

            My mother always made it very clear that we were welcome to stay after age 18, but if we did we’d pay rent. My sister took her up on it, and paid rent, I flew the coop. Either way, we were welcome to stay, but we were schooled in the notion that 18 year olds are adults and pay their own way.

  • Rufus

    And, if the story that this was done because it was assumed, “Lincoln” would win is true, then it’s even more of an embarrassment (if that’s possible). It is the equivalent of treating the FLOTUS as a token. A token based on her skin color.

    Can Hollywood and the political class in the U.S. sink any lower? I’m starting to understand Caligula and Nero’s reigns.

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