Comments on: Waterbored Pt. Deux

By: Mike

Mike — Sat, 30 May 2009 03:26:38 +0000

Ach, man. You can nae be tellin' me I'm on my own? Well, a Buchanan ne'er missed a chance of a fight, yet! I'll have tae do it myself. Clàr Innis!

By: Floyd

Floyd — Sat, 30 May 2009 02:21:52 +0000

It’s funny… I didn’t take it as a direct swipe at my post. If it is, then he didn’t even have the common courtesy to give me a reach… er… a link. Sorry — almost slipped into Full Metal Jacket mode. I bet he doesn’t have the balls to bring me on his radio show. of course I wouldn’t brink in any ratings either.

By: Mike

Mike — Sat, 30 May 2009 01:24:56 +0000

Am I crazy, Floyd, or is Mancow’s headline a direct slap in your face? Did he then drop the glove at your feet?

I think we might have ourselves a little feud starting! My father’s Polish, but I’m a Scot on my mother’s side, and nothing brightens my day like a little inter-clan warfare.

Clàr Innis!

By: Matt Helm

Matt Helm — Sat, 30 May 2009 01:01:48 +0000

Yeah, but tell me that after the Gitmo scum saw all of this stuff about waterboarding on the news over the years, that it didn’t cease to be an effective psychological tool. It only became a psychological tool at that point for the far left, to get then up in arms about it. When you’re watching CNN cover waterboarding while in prison, you realize that they’re not really going to drown you, so you’re not as psychologically affected. The main factor for any kind or torture to work is for disfigurement, maiming, or death to be in the equation.

By: Mike

Mike — Sat, 30 May 2009 01:00:16 +0000

I hope there aren’t two Mancows. What would happen if they bred?

By: fritz8945

fritz8945 — Sat, 30 May 2009 00:59:38 +0000

How about those poor guys at the Iraqi prison who had panties put on their heads? Doesn’t that recall old college dorm activities?

By: Mike

Mike — Sat, 30 May 2009 00:58:19 +0000

I clicked over to read his story and was disappointed to find that it was little more than what you excerpted, Floyd. I’d honestly hoped to see the results of his soul-searching.

Here’s one question I’d have liked him to think about and answer honestly.

“Now that you know exactly what waterboarding feels like, consider this hypothetical question. If you knew it would result in a permanent doubling of your ratings, would you go through it again?”

No saving the lives of his daughters, no patriotic duty, just ratings. If he said he would do it again for the ratings, then it isn’t torture. It could be as unpleasant and even painful as he says, but if he’d do it again then it’s no worse than getting his chest waxed to promote “rainforest awareness.”

The other day at “First Things” I read an essay denouncing waterboarding, and it really made some good points—ones not easily dismissed. And then the author had to go and wash away all the goodwill I had for him by talking about the consequences of resorting “to the blowtorch and the pliers.”

If you have to resort to those kinds of debating tactics, I really don’t care to consider your argument. It’s obvious that even you know you’re on shaky ground. I could study your argument and find the places where it was weak, or I could save some time and dismiss you out of hand as being dishonest. And I’m lazy.

By: Raoul Ortega

Raoul Ortega — Sat, 30 May 2009 00:45:34 +0000

Is this the same “Mancow” who, back in ‘95 or so, after Clinton delayed traffic at L.A. International to get a haircut, got fired for pulling the stunt of blocking traffic on the Bay Bridge in S.F. to get a haircut himself? Or am I thinking of another talentless radio clown?

By: Stephanie

Stephanie — Fri, 29 May 2009 22:20:10 +0000

I know what torture is…..wait until you read my note at facebook when I finally get control of the twitching in my face the urgent need to lash out wildly at anyone sporting flannel, a ratty squirrel tail “beard” and buck teeth. Then I will tell you what real torture is. I feel like shouting out I was a human being once………

By: Floyd

Floyd — Fri, 29 May 2009 22:10:19 +0000

I agree JimmyC. The psych/physical distinction is important. Sleep deprivation, etc. loud music, etc. could lead to serious physical harm, but submitting someone to sleep deprivation that your average medical resident undergoes or rock music at levels that the average iPod budded teen hears hours a day hardly qualify.